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On user side >> installing additional packages is easier than transforming existing >> package and removing unneeded propagated deps. Personally, I would >> remove all the propagated inputs from piem and let the user install what >> he needs for his particular use case. > > I'm of two minds, both for this particular patch, and the policy in > general. I understand the point you are making, and see the elegance of > offering a clean set of composable parts for users (and downstream) to > compose. > > OTOH, it makes getting full-featured (and compiled) packages a chore, > where users or downstream has to pick up the slack. Put another > way; someone somewhere has to make a package variant if you want to > cover all use cases. > > It is my understanding the guideline is (/was?) to have packages be > full-featured, and offer a '-minimal' version in cases where it makes > sense (e.g. bootstrapping, less-than-sane dependency graphs). If this > guideline has since changed, or (in this case) the Emacs teams decides > otherwise, that is something I'm obviously fine with. Some practical > tips on how to make byte compilation happen would still be appreciated > in that case :-). I think we can do byte/native compilation without propagating deps, so it's almost ready to consume, but doesn't pollute the profile. =2D-=20 Best regards, Andrew Tropin --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEKEGaxlA4dEDH6S/6IgjSCVjB3rAFAmSQgzoACgkQIgjSCVjB 3rC0oQ//RLw1EpUtIed40Oxgwj4nMwPheTEfjGjoKzNISkeVtkVXb/5MvxXEfeCI fnRiboGGJtkmNxbv+nQbOqugE52KLGHZ3OiQE8a7q/XZHWOTQxpPkEwjIhJE0Wos AvtOZjew8US535STk20iBzVBw2XcZN/rDS22F70LsbPbGF3+s/je/sfPGWVgKans eRu7WcU2ro76ZjObSBX6020nI1KavZVapEKhwdbcppaL/329EHLmOYCZcoSCrZFs idTDhgqJb2A61+nOBo6WdtB1l8FzsvuY3L1vvPLDY7nQI9Esc2M1/xi0bU+CziO3 vAJ45mk5dFT6nsNqAny17uri5kKCQFBS1yUMAi3GN36ZEkZqZtoDJopOiVcICC1u lGpeSU5I3QYxHmzBzsVSDvukWv0xoAed/ddwxQx1iasZjnCInbkxyPWioI9H7NoI H5jCiF3I/e8sxjYe8Ii5cdnB3WW2c4vBdfo2Vr1KSzrNdDKMnRAU8qyaZIDA7iks QGlJTA5yyOmKFia6O7zwPU7JpCPjxl63Gfi1zYMesIBipq85uIqXPYWJNf49Nc/T 8nkbV6cRjrKmLMJogXvmzptMqdzsC1xlN8GecwpmDGGcc+Aoc9OcvdiamavkGTB6 GTTAfN3T0G0H83no3e615PRlI7O/C+IHiaLqGathTGYh2/40qHc= =Lyti -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--