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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: ED97E67164 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.40 X-Spam-Score: -4.40 X-TUID: LoGwq3hHfMuO Maxim Cournoyer writes: > Hi, > > Ricardo Wurmus writes: > >> "Danny Milosavljevic" writes: >> >>> I agree that automating the technical steps of contributing to Guix >>> would be nice. >> >> We could provide a VM. Guix can create systems well enough to make this >> feasible, I think. > > I'm not convinced. I typically uses VM for testing quick hacks on > foreign systems, not as my main development environment. I doubt the > experience would be helped much. We have 'guix shell' :-). Or =E2=80=9Cguix system container=E2=80=9D if we want to meet in the middle= :) --=20 Ricardo