bug#25836: [aspell-devel] Honoring ‘ASPELL_CONF’ in libaspell

bug#25836: [aspell-devel] Honoring ‘ASPELL_CONF’ in libaspell

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi Kevin,

From your reply it seems the second part of my message got lost; you can
see it at <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=25836#14>.

Kevin Atkinson <kevina@gnu.org> skribis:

> It would be better to change the compiled in defaults.  I believe
> the --enable-dict-dir configure option should change the default for dict-dir.

The problem is that dict-dir is typically
“$HOME/.guix-profile/lib/aspell”, so we can’t choose it at configure
time (unless Aspell expands “$HOME”?).

Even if we did, we’d like to offer users the ability to choose
dictionaries located in a different place.

How would you achieve that?

Thanks for your reply,
Ludo’.

bug#25836: [aspell-devel] Honoring ‘ASPELL_CONF’ in libaspell

[Catonano]

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2017-03-27 10:26 GMT+02:00 Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org>:

> Hi Kevin,
>
> From your reply it seems the second part of my message got lost; you can
> see it at <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=25836#14>.
>
> Kevin Atkinson <kevina@gnu.org> skribis:
>
> > It would be better to change the compiled in defaults.  I believe
> > the --enable-dict-dir configure option should change the default for
> dict-dir.
>
> The problem is that dict-dir is typically
> “$HOME/.guix-profile/lib/aspell”, so we can’t choose it at configure
> time (unless Aspell expands “$HOME”?).
>
> Even if we did, we’d like to offer users the ability to choose
> dictionaries located in a different place.
>
> How would you achieve that?
>
> Thanks for your reply,
> Ludo’.
>


ehm, are there any news on this ?

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bug#25836: [aspell-devel] Honoring ‘ASPELL_CONF’ in libaspell

[Kevin Atkinson]

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Sorry,

For compiled in defaults there is some support for expansion, see 
Config::get_default() in common/config.cpp.  In particular the following 
should work: "<$HOME|.>/.guix-profile/lib/aspell. Due to the way the 
code is written an alternative must always be given, in particular 
"<$HOME>/.guix-profile/lib/aspell" is unlikely to work.  You could also 
use: "<home-dir>/.guix-profile/lib/aspell".  Note that the expansion is 
only for compiled in defaults, if the value is manually set, then there 
is no expansion.

When you do "aspell --config" it will print the defaults and then also 
what it expands to.

On 05/03/2017 12:49 PM, Catonano wrote:
> 2017-03-27 10:26 GMT+02:00 Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org 
> <mailto:ludo@gnu.org>>:
>
>     Hi Kevin,
>
>     From your reply it seems the second part of my message got lost;
>     you can
>     see it at <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=25836#14
>     <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=25836#14>>.
>
>     Kevin Atkinson <kevina@gnu.org <mailto:kevina@gnu.org>> skribis:
>
>     > It would be better to change the compiled in defaults.  I believe
>     > the --enable-dict-dir configure option should change the default
>     for dict-dir.
>
>     The problem is that dict-dir is typically
>     “$HOME/.guix-profile/lib/aspell”, so we can’t choose it at configure
>     time (unless Aspell expands “$HOME”?).
>
>     Even if we did, we’d like to offer users the ability to choose
>     dictionaries located in a different place.
>
>     How would you achieve that?
>
>     Thanks for your reply,
>     Ludo’.
>
>
>
> ehm, are there any news on this ?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Aspell-devel mailing list
> Aspell-devel@gnu.org
> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/aspell-devel


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bug#25836: [aspell-devel] Honoring ‘ASPELL_CONF’ in libaspell

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi Kevin,

Kevin Atkinson <kevina@gnu.org> skribis:

> For compiled in defaults there is some support for expansion, see
> Config::get_default() in common/config.cpp.  In particular the
> following should work: "<$HOME|.>/.guix-profile/lib/aspell. Due to the
> way the code is written an alternative must always be given, in
> particular "<$HOME>/.guix-profile/lib/aspell" is unlikely to work.
> You could also use: "<home-dir>/.guix-profile/lib/aspell".  Note that
> the expansion is only for compiled in defaults, if the value is
> manually set, then there is no expansion.
>
> When you do "aspell --config" it will print the defaults and then also
> what it expands to.

Thanks for the tips.  I ended up using something similar to what you
suggest:

  https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/commit/?id=6d35b1c99c15f87a30fdf1a38c88db844b3e8303

Ludo’.

bug#25836: [aspell-devel] Honoring ‘ASPELL_CONF’ in libaspell

[Kevin Atkinson]

On Wed, 17 May 2017 16:21:40 +0200
ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
> 
> Kevin Atkinson <kevina@gnu.org> skribis:
> 
> > For compiled in defaults there is some support for expansion, see
> > Config::get_default() in common/config.cpp.  In particular the
> > following should work: "<$HOME|.>/.guix-profile/lib/aspell. Due to
> > the way the code is written an alternative must always be given, in
> > particular "<$HOME>/.guix-profile/lib/aspell" is unlikely to work.
> > You could also use: "<home-dir>/.guix-profile/lib/aspell".  Note
> > that the expansion is only for compiled in defaults, if the value is
> > manually set, then there is no expansion.
> >
> > When you do "aspell --config" it will print the defaults and then
> > also what it expands to.
> 
> Thanks for the tips.  I ended up using something similar to what you
> suggest:
> 
>   https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/commit/?id=6d35b1c99c15f87a30fdf1a38c88db844b3e8303

If you tested it both with $ASPELL_DICT_DIR defined and without then it
looks good.

Kevin

bug#25836: [PATCH] gnu: Add gspell

[Thomas Danckaert]

ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:

> Thanks for the patch.  I’ve modified the package like this:
>
> [...]
>     (inputs
>      `(("enchant" ,enchant)
>        ("iso-codes" ,iso-codes)
>        ("gtk+" ,gtk+)
>        ("glib" ,glib)))
>     (native-inputs
>      `(("glib" ,glib "bin")
>        ("pkg-config" ,pkg-config)
>        ("xmllint" ,libxml2)
>
>        ;; For tests.
>        ("xorg-server" ,xorg-server)
>        ("aspell-dict-en" ,aspell-dict-en)))

Just for reference, for when we solve the dictionary issue:

While experimenting with this package and (unsuccessfully) trying to get
it to find aspell dictionaries, I also noticed we could add the
following native inputs:

+       ("docbook-xsl" ,docbook-xsl)
+       ("gobject-introspection" ,gobject-introspection)
+       ("gtk-doc" ,gtk-doc)
+       ("vala" ,vala)
        ("glib" ,glib "bin")
        ("pkg-config" ,pkg-config)
        ("xmllint" ,libxml2)
        ("xorg-server" ,xorg-server)))

and the following configure flag to build docs:

+       #:configure-flags '("--enable-gtk-doc")

I'm not really familiar with the gobject system, but I suppose
generating the bindings is useful? :)

Thomas

bug#25836: [PATCH] gnu: Add gspell

[Catonano]

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I believe it's worthwhile to make this known to the guix reviewers community
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/aspell-devel/2017-03/msg00003.html

Hope this helps

Ciao ! :-)


2017-03-30 13:57 GMT+02:00 Thomas Danckaert <post@thomasdanckaert.be>:

> ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
>
> > Thanks for the patch.  I’ve modified the package like this:
> >
> > [...]
> >     (inputs
> >      `(("enchant" ,enchant)
> >        ("iso-codes" ,iso-codes)
> >        ("gtk+" ,gtk+)
> >        ("glib" ,glib)))
> >     (native-inputs
> >      `(("glib" ,glib "bin")
> >        ("pkg-config" ,pkg-config)
> >        ("xmllint" ,libxml2)
> >
> >        ;; For tests.
> >        ("xorg-server" ,xorg-server)
> >        ("aspell-dict-en" ,aspell-dict-en)))
>
> Just for reference, for when we solve the dictionary issue:
>
> While experimenting with this package and (unsuccessfully) trying to get
> it to find aspell dictionaries, I also noticed we could add the
> following native inputs:
>
> +       ("docbook-xsl" ,docbook-xsl)
> +       ("gobject-introspection" ,gobject-introspection)
> +       ("gtk-doc" ,gtk-doc)
> +       ("vala" ,vala)
>         ("glib" ,glib "bin")
>         ("pkg-config" ,pkg-config)
>         ("xmllint" ,libxml2)
>         ("xorg-server" ,xorg-server)))
>
> and the following configure flag to build docs:
>
> +       #:configure-flags '("--enable-gtk-doc")
>
> I'm not really familiar with the gobject system, but I suppose
> generating the bindings is useful? :)
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>

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bug#25836: [PATCH] gnu: Add gspell

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi,

I just pushed gspell as 411ba511893feca223656122059cb12378b95c91,
finally!  \o/

Thomas Danckaert <post@thomasdanckaert.be> skribis:

> Just for reference, for when we solve the dictionary issue:
>
> While experimenting with this package and (unsuccessfully) trying to get
> it to find aspell dictionaries, I also noticed we could add the
> following native inputs:
>
> +       ("docbook-xsl" ,docbook-xsl)
> +       ("gobject-introspection" ,gobject-introspection)
> +       ("gtk-doc" ,gtk-doc)
> +       ("vala" ,vala)
>         ("glib" ,glib "bin")
>         ("pkg-config" ,pkg-config)
>         ("xmllint" ,libxml2)
>         ("xorg-server" ,xorg-server)))
>
> and the following configure flag to build docs:
>
> +       #:configure-flags '("--enable-gtk-doc")
>
> I'm not really familiar with the gobject system, but I suppose
> generating the bindings is useful? :)

For now we don’t have any users of gspell at all, let alone users of its
Vala bindings, so perhaps we can leave it as is?

Building the docs to a separate “doc” output could be marginally useful,
I think.

WDYT?

Thanks,
Ludo’.

bug#25836: [PATCH] gnu: Add gspell

[Thomas Danckaert]

From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
Subject: Re: bug#25836: [PATCH] gnu: Add gspell
Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 16:24:18 +0200

>> I'm not really familiar with the gobject system, but I suppose
>> generating the bindings is useful? :)
>
> For now we don’t have any users of gspell at all, let alone users 
> of its
> Vala bindings, so perhaps we can leave it as is?
>
> Building the docs to a separate “doc” output could be marginally 
> useful,
> I think.

For me, it's me as it is.  I have no use for those bindings or the 
documentation myself.  I just stumbled upon them while trying to 
debug the package, and thought I'd mention it just in case.

When I submit a package, I usually try to enable as many options as I 
can, even though I don't use them myself, just in case someone might 
need them.  Maybe this is overkill?  Is there a general 
recommendation for Guix?

Thomas

bug#25836: [PATCH] gnu: Add gspell

[Ludovic Courtès]

Thomas Danckaert <post@thomasdanckaert.be> skribis:

> From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
> Subject: Re: bug#25836: [PATCH] gnu: Add gspell
> Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 16:24:18 +0200
>
>>> I'm not really familiar with the gobject system, but I suppose
>>> generating the bindings is useful? :)
>>
>> For now we don’t have any users of gspell at all, let alone users of
>> its
>> Vala bindings, so perhaps we can leave it as is?
>>
>> Building the docs to a separate “doc” output could be marginally
>> useful,
>> I think.
>
> For me, it's me as it is.

Hi! Is it you?  :-)

> I have no use for those bindings or the documentation myself.  I just
> stumbled upon them while trying to debug the package, and thought I'd
> mention it just in case.
>
> When I submit a package, I usually try to enable as many options as I
> can, even though I don't use them myself, just in case someone might
> need them.  Maybe this is overkill?  Is there a general recommendation
> for Guix?

It depends!  The recommendation is to check what ‘guix size’ says and
weigh the usefulness/size ratio of the added dependency:

  https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Submitting-Patches.html

Ludo’.

bug#25836: [PATCH] gnu: Add gspell

[Catonano]

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2017-05-17 16:24 GMT+02:00 Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org>:

> Hi,
>
> I just pushed gspell as 411ba511893feca223656122059cb12378b95c91,
> finally!  \o/
>
> Thomas Danckaert <post@thomasdanckaert.be> skribis:
>
> > Just for reference, for when we solve the dictionary issue:
> >
> > While experimenting with this package and (unsuccessfully) trying to get
> > it to find aspell dictionaries, I also noticed we could add the
> > following native inputs:
> >
> > +       ("docbook-xsl" ,docbook-xsl)
> > +       ("gobject-introspection" ,gobject-introspection)
> > +       ("gtk-doc" ,gtk-doc)
> > +       ("vala" ,vala)
> >         ("glib" ,glib "bin")
> >         ("pkg-config" ,pkg-config)
> >         ("xmllint" ,libxml2)
> >         ("xorg-server" ,xorg-server)))
> >
> > and the following configure flag to build docs:
> >
> > +       #:configure-flags '("--enable-gtk-doc")
> >
> > I'm not really familiar with the gobject system, but I suppose
> > generating the bindings is useful? :)
>
> For now we don’t have any users of gspell at all, let alone users of its
> Vala bindings, so perhaps we can leave it as is?
>

Originally, I wanted gspell because I understood that it's a dependency of
Polari, the Gnome chat client.

Once this aspell path thing is solved, should any bindings be necessary for
Polari, they could be added later, couldn't they ?

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bug#25836: [PATCH] gnu: Add gspell

[Catonano]

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2017-05-17 19:22 GMT+02:00 Catonano <catonano@gmail.com>:

>
>
> 2017-05-17 16:24 GMT+02:00 Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just pushed gspell as 411ba511893feca223656122059cb12378b95c91,
>> finally!  \o/
>>
>> Thomas Danckaert <post@thomasdanckaert.be> skribis:
>>
>> > Just for reference, for when we solve the dictionary issue:
>> >
>> > While experimenting with this package and (unsuccessfully) trying to get
>> > it to find aspell dictionaries, I also noticed we could add the
>> > following native inputs:
>> >
>> > +       ("docbook-xsl" ,docbook-xsl)
>> > +       ("gobject-introspection" ,gobject-introspection)
>> > +       ("gtk-doc" ,gtk-doc)
>> > +       ("vala" ,vala)
>> >         ("glib" ,glib "bin")
>> >         ("pkg-config" ,pkg-config)
>> >         ("xmllint" ,libxml2)
>> >         ("xorg-server" ,xorg-server)))
>> >
>> > and the following configure flag to build docs:
>> >
>> > +       #:configure-flags '("--enable-gtk-doc")
>> >
>> > I'm not really familiar with the gobject system, but I suppose
>> > generating the bindings is useful? :)
>>
>> For now we don’t have any users of gspell at all, let alone users of its
>> Vala bindings, so perhaps we can leave it as is?
>>
>
> Originally, I wanted gspell because I understood that it's a dependency of
> Polari, the Gnome chat client.
>
> Once this aspell path thing is solved, should any bindings be necessary
> for Polari, they could be added later, couldn't they ?
>
>
>
Thank you so much or this, Ludo ! 🤗

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