From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id UB0nDL9Uzl7iHAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 11:53:35 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id EPDtB79Uzl6kEQAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 11:53:35 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0832940980 for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 11:53:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:47996 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jducm-0006w4-QY for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 27 May 2020 07:53:32 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43390) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jducf-0006vt-Jp for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2020 07:53:25 -0400 Received: from dustycloud.org ([50.116.34.160]:39214) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jduce-0000Y1-CB for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 May 2020 07:53:25 -0400 Received: from twig (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dustycloud.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84D552661E; Wed, 27 May 2020 07:53:22 -0400 (EDT) References: <87v9l2thi5.fsf@dustycloud.org> <87y2pyfc3d.fsf@yamatai> <20200512192319.GA918@E5400> <9077d3bf-1f83-6e08-341d-7f7be5387f42@hyperbola.info> <87367nydku.fsf@dustycloud.org> <87o8qawqr7.fsf@dustycloud.org> <87a71u5751.fsf@zancanaro.id.au> User-agent: mu4e 1.2.0; emacs 26.3 From: Christopher Lemmer Webber To: Carlo Zancanaro Subject: Re: Vanilla Firefox recipe? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.01 X-TUID: Fv+ZXqpvLNbo Carlo Zancanaro writes: > Hey Chris, > > On Wed, May 27 2020, Christopher Lemmer Webber wrote: >> However, I wonder if, with a matter of just two patches, this could be >> resolved: >> >> - Patch out the automatic download of Cisco's h.264 plugin. >> - Add a warning banner *above* the extensions page, or simply switch it >> to the same one that Icecat already uses. >> >> Is that all that's necessary, then, to get "vanilla Firefox" in Guix? >> It strikes me that with those two changes, the criteria would be met. > > We would need to watch out for Mozilla's requirements to use the > "Firefox" trademark[1]. Of particular note is the section titled > "Modified Versions Require Prior Written Permission": > > The open source nature of Firefox and other Mozilla software allows > you to freely download and modify the source code. However, if you > make any changes to Firefox or other Mozilla software, you may not > redistribute that product using any Mozilla trademark without > Mozilla=E2=80=99s prior written consent and, typically, a distribution > agreement with Mozilla. For example, you may not distribute a > modified form of Firefox and continue to call it Firefox. > > Changes requiring Mozilla=E2=80=99s prior written permission include (b= ut are not limited to): > - Changing the default home page or adding bookmarks, > - Adding, modifying, or deleting source files, > - Adding, modifying, or deleting content from installer files, > - File location changes, > - Adding extensions, add-ons or plugins, or > - Installing themes other than those available in the most recent > stable version of Firefox available at Mozilla.org. > > If you wish to distribute a modified version of Firefox or other > Mozilla software with Mozilla trademarks please contact us with your > request at trademark-permissions@mozilla.com. > > Carlo > > [1]: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/trademarks/distribution-pol= icy/ I agree this is a concern and is in the list of things to address. I forget, but I remember reading somewhere that Firefox's codebase does ship in such a way where rebranding it isn't as hard as it used to be, or that the development version already did have some of this branding stripped out.=20=20 Am I misremembering? - Chris