From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id qEuADlfsgWC9EgAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 23:36:23 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id yND9CVfsgWBccwAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 21:36:23 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E47BD1B3B8 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 23:36:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:44324 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZgzm-0001YN-15 for larch@yhetil.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 17:36:22 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53346) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZgyw-0000rX-LU for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 17:35:30 -0400 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:38580) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZgyu-0007FJ-GG for guix-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 17:35:30 -0400 Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lZgyp-00019B-U0; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 17:35:24 -0400 From: Mark H Weaver To: =?utf-8?Q?L=C3=A9o?= Le Bouter , Raghav Gururajan , Guix Devel Subject: Re: Another misleading commit log (was Re: A "cosmetic changes" commit that removes security fixes) In-Reply-To: References: <87tunz11mf.fsf@netris.org> <87y2daz13x.fsf@netris.org> <87r1j2z079.fsf@netris.org> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 17:33:35 -0400 Message-ID: <87a6pqypf9.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.112.178.59; envelope-from=mhw@netris.org; helo=world.peace.net X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." 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I don't feel > like that's something great to do at all. I feel an obligation to protect our users, and among other things that means calling attention to Guix committers that are doing things like pushing commits with misleading commit logs (which evade proper review) and pushing "cosmetic changes" that remove security fixes. I've given evidence to back up these claims, evidence that anyone who cares to look in our git repository can plainly see. If you believe my conclusions are erroneous, please make your case. Mark --=20 Support Richard Stallman against the vicious misinformation campaign against him and the FSF. See for more.