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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1666281428; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=acfao3oqxz34ZUlO6340pZGNHqkg5dbGo8tTzc7LBlQ=; b=fbwxMUk0wXnu+yyV3NWFZW53jWFh90TFw9GDiRY/hXWEa0pghmR0m7vGG3CfxGNXkB2Idu Kspm9YZxbHK0uogH51shCZzivCiFqte9u21VYRcDYBkK71BIx4EMkg61+jWRp+4Q71a9m8 0aOUAdVwlBRm1kaDEBQJV8d7F2PmWlp7efwOr19AEBIhQUSBjQPMl6QsVxTTI9XXPOAe55 tDdEJzH1snjv4maMPOySXLxqFhrX+BBsi1CMAElJrevUg+J/rCMyLEM5vwNgJitviuK6SD uq2Tr/zYk5JhQDq8hkhttuntIOmCtcY07hwAsWcN5jcNGecW04DX5IxQU5Osbg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1666281428; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=fVN4KVeq/Mmio1MkLQQwwvsHl7b4Ipz9u1BhScP37FUW0zYWH53AhGT8B2T/+0JuPPbUDS vTIAP8tOaNJcmKYwIibNSMAFgyEN9UXXcFoKl/d+yWviuz1VM1umOIrwML81FfPUCYYOHl SnBZ0XQHr7PTgB/KrtuhEcN5+imVZ2GjNL7DMBKmMVTz9VBo67e3C+HkdUZRFPDqkmNzGw FeAvGFJreihJ5hb8Xp5X1GCe5V5Bbisxnhjc0/GEohd803Xfxf2I0cdQLSjbif4A1jX2UA v5X+cyQnt2+mxVIA1QTYD1rsR8maDpBoyKQw63ixhKIDcDA6XdCpNONZE5cDSg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=MGfypbNY; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.13 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=MGfypbNY; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: DF3CE35AB7 X-Spam-Score: -5.13 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: nEq0kHjT3Q3W Hi, Janneke Nieuwenhuizen skribis: >> Janneke Nieuwenhuizen skribis: >> >> This is exciting news! Looking forward to having full-source >> bootstrapped AArch64=E2=80=A6 and it looks like there=E2=80=99s already = activity on a >> =E2=80=98wip-=E2=80=99 branch. > > Yes, it is! The ARM bootstrap story is still a bit flakey, as > stage0-posix does not support ARM. So, ARM would need > %bootstrap-mescc-tools and %bootstrap-mes binary seeds...meh. By =E2=80=9CARM=E2=80=9D, you mean the 32-bit ARMv7 ISA, which armhf-linux = targets, right? (AArch64, aka. ARMv8, is also =E2=80=9CARM=E2=80=9D. :-)) > However, aarch64-linux now bootstraps from 526 bytes all the way until > gcc-core-mesboot 2,95.3. Very nice! Impressive! > We're still stuck at building a full gcc+glibc combo; > glibc-mesboot-2.2.5 builds, but possibly not correctly; as the full > gcc-mesboot0 (2.95.3) build fails at configure time: gcc-core-mesboot0 + > glibc-mesboot0 > > ?: 0 [execle "./gencheck" # "./gencheck"] > ERROR: In procedure execle: Exec format error > > Not sure what to do here. We could somehow try to debug/bisect this. > We could try to use a newer glibc; glibc-2.2.5 happened during the > OABI/EABI switch and is heavily patched. This issue is on aarch64-linux? What does =E2=80=9Cfile gencheck=E2=80=9D = say? > Or, we could try to remove glibc-2.2.5/gcc-2.95.3 altogether and aim > for a direct tcc =3D> gcc-4.6.4. We need to go that way anyway for > RISCV. That sounds like the best approach longer-term, but possibly more work than figuring out the issue above? Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.