From: Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org>
To: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: (Exposing?) config files and non-start/stop operations
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2016 16:34:02 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878tsdbx2d.fsf@dustycloud.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a8cuaszg.fsf@dustycloud.org>
Christopher Allan Webber writes:
> Hello,
>
> I'm writing a service for dirvish, and I realized that if I'm following
> current guix service routes, I might not be able to run all the
> operations I need to. It seems that the current route for Guix is to
> have your service write out a config that more or less becomes part of
> the environment for starting / stopping a daemon via Shepherd. But what
> if that's not all you need to do?
>
> Aside from just "running as a daemon", plenty of (especially
> applications which manage state) will need to have other commands that
> are unlikely to be run from shepherd. For example:
>
> - Initializing a data store. For example, in dirvish I need to run
> a command to initialize a "vault" where I will be storing my data.
> - Manually invoking a garbage collection utility.
> - Manually invoking an integrity check utility.
> - Possibly some side effect involving querying the network.
> - Running schema migrations.
>
> All sorts of things! Most of them (all?) involve state or side effects,
> but plenty of our most important services will be "state overlords" of
> some type.
>
> So it seems to me that one of two things will be needed... either:
>
> - Expose the configuration file directly, possibly by putting in
> `${profile}/etc/foo'
> - Expose "wrapped" utilities. For example, instead of invoking
> "dirvish" directly, I might invoke a wrapped dirvish.
Talking about this with Ricardo Wurmus on irc, the idea of launching
such a utility from shepherd itself came to mind.
So imagine you want to run a tool like this:
foo-db --config=/path/to/foodb-config.cfg gc --aggressive
It looks like shepherd has an "action" slot/method:
https://www.gnu.org/software/shepherd/manual/html_node/Slots-of-services.html#Slots-of-services
https://www.gnu.org/software/shepherd/manual/html_node/Service-Convenience.html#Service-Convenience
So I wonder if we could add additional actions, and do something like
this:
herd gc foo-db --aggressive
Or, even more lazy (but maybe not as good?):
herd run-cmd foo-db gc --aggressive
Anyway, either of these examples would call the appropriate command but
implicitly pass in the --config parameter appropriately.
It looks like (gnu services shepherd) doesn't expose the "actions" slot,
but couldn't we do that?
This seems like the right route. What do others think?
- Chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-11-20 22:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-20 18:47 (Exposing?) config files and non-start/stop operations Christopher Allan Webber
2016-11-20 22:34 ` Christopher Allan Webber [this message]
2016-11-21 4:54 ` Chris Marusich
2016-11-21 16:18 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-11-21 16:53 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-11-22 4:13 ` Chris Marusich
2016-11-22 17:21 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-11-22 22:59 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-11-23 5:28 ` Chris Marusich
2016-11-22 22:57 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-11-23 22:03 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-11-24 13:31 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-11-25 7:27 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-11-26 12:40 ` Chris Marusich
2016-11-27 15:39 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-11-29 3:06 ` Chris Marusich
2016-11-26 13:47 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-11-26 17:40 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-11-27 15:47 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-11-26 17:43 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-11-27 15:48 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-11-21 14:18 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-11-21 16:21 ` Christopher Allan Webber
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