From: Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@gmail.com>
To: myglc2 <myglc2@gmail.com>
Cc: "help-guix@gnu.org" <help-guix@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: successful installation, but problems updating
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 09:05:59 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878tfcbv9k.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86bmk8rfz9.fsf@gmail.com> (myglc2@gmail.com's message of "Sat, 11 Nov 2017 10:29:30 -0500")
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myglc2 <myglc2@gmail.com> writes:
> On 11/10/2017 at 15:30 Chris Marusich writes:
>
>> Hi Leo,
>>
>> Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> writes:
>>
>>> Substition is considered to fail when Guix is expecting a substitute but
>>> the server returns 404, 504, or some other unexpected problem occurs. It
>>> is not considered to fail if the server initially reports that no
>>> substitute is available.
>
> Hi Leo, this is a wonderful clarification of behavior that has confused
> me for 1.5 years!
>>
>> Thank you for the clarification. This is what I did not understand. I
>> read the manual and got the impression that when --fallback has not been
>> given, if a given substitute cannot be found (regardless of whether or
>> not a substitute server claimed to provide one), then Guix will not
>> build it. I see now that my understanding was mistaken.
>
> I had this mistaken impression too.
>>
>> I've attached a patch which tries to clarify this in the manual. What
>> do you think of it?
>
> Hey Chris,
>
> How about saying what Leo said right up front in the substitutes
> section. This allows the --fallback addition to be more brief.
>
> Rough draft below.
>
> WDYT? - George
>
> 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> doc/guix.texi | 11 +++++++++--
>
> modified doc/guix.texi
> @@ -2120,6 +2120,13 @@ server. We call these pre-built items @dfn{substitutes}---they are
> substitutes for local build results. In many cases, downloading a
> substitute is much faster than building things locally.
>
> +When substitutes are enabled (the default) and a substitute is not
> +available the build will take place locally. If a substitute is
> +available but substitution fails, e.g., the substitute server returns
> +404, 504, times out, or some other unexpected problem occurs, guix stops
> +and reports an error unless --fallback or --keep-going options are
> +specified.
> +
> Substitutes can be anything resulting from a derivation build
> (@pxref{Derivations}). Of course, in the common case, they are
> pre-built package binaries, but source tarballs, for instance, which
> @@ -5192,8 +5199,8 @@ derivations has failed.
> Do not build the derivations.
>
> @item --fallback
> -When substituting a pre-built binary fails, fall back to building
> -packages locally.
> +Attempt to build locally instead of issuing an error when substitutes
> +are enabled and the substitution of a pre-built binary fails.
>
> @item --substitute-urls=@var{urls}
> @anchor{client-substitute-urls}
I think I like the way you wrote it better. I'm fine with that. I was
hoping not to add to the already-voluminous paragraphs about Substitutes
at the top of section 3.3, but honestly as long as this info is in the
manual, I'm happy.
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Chris
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-11 17:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-06 8:16 successful installation, but problems updating Marco van Hulten
2017-11-06 9:43 ` Carlo Zancanaro
2017-11-06 20:06 ` Marco van Hulten
2017-11-07 9:20 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-11-07 10:58 ` Marco van Hulten
2017-11-08 1:37 ` Marco van Hulten
2017-11-09 7:45 ` Marco van Hulten
2017-11-09 13:19 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-11-09 19:27 ` Marco van Hulten
2017-11-09 20:46 ` Marco van Hulten
2017-11-09 20:53 ` Mathieu Othacehe
2017-11-10 7:26 ` Marco van Hulten
2017-11-10 16:35 ` Leo Famulari
2017-11-11 22:23 ` Marco van Hulten
2017-11-12 1:26 ` Leo Famulari
2017-11-06 10:18 ` Thomas Sigurdsen
2017-11-10 5:58 ` Chris Marusich
2017-11-10 7:23 ` Carlo Zancanaro
2017-11-10 16:28 ` Leo Famulari
2017-11-10 23:30 ` Chris Marusich
2017-11-11 15:29 ` myglc2
2017-11-11 17:05 ` Chris Marusich [this message]
2017-11-11 18:06 ` myglc2
2017-11-12 1:29 ` Leo Famulari
2017-11-12 3:36 ` myglc2
2017-11-12 4:45 ` Leo Famulari
2017-11-12 11:10 ` Chris Marusich
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