From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Giovanni Biscuolo Subject: Re: [PATCH] gnu: Add ungoogled-chromium. Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2019 19:56:41 +0100 Message-ID: <878syfblzq.fsf@roquette.mug.biscuolo.net> References: <20190202192023.22087-1-mbakke@fastmail.com> <87k1igpwk8.fsf@dismail.de> <20190203235204.63970587@parabola> <87sgx3mbcq.fsf@gnu.org> <87tvhf5f8d.fsf@dustycloud.org> <20190216030021.374f4c82@parabola> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44854) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gv59H-0007VR-AK for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 13:57:16 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gv59G-0004dB-Ap for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 13:57:15 -0500 Received: from ns13.heimat.it ([46.4.214.66]:56998) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gv59G-0004ba-0p for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Feb 2019 13:57:14 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20190216030021.374f4c82@parabola> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: bill-auger , guix-devel@gnu.org Cc: 28004@debbugs.gnu.org --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi guix-devel! this is my humble contribution to this discussion... (I'm not a Guix maintainer) first and foremost, IMHO guix-devel is not the place to discuss GNU FSDG criteria; I'm going to subscribe gnu-linux-libre@nongnu.org to send my comments - and I _have_ some - on the FSDG compliance process if you are interested please follow this thread: http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/gnu-linux-libre/2019-02/threads.html#0= 0020 :-D bill-auger writes: [...] > about a year ago, the FSDG review process and criteria for endorsement > of new distros was updated the new FSDG criteria checklist for > community review that was adopted includes the following essential > criteria: > > "Programs commonly known to have freedom issues are liberated or > excluded" > > that criteria is a link to the "software that does not respect the > FSDG" wiki page, for reference, this page: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Template:FSDG_Checklist > which includes an entry for 'chromium-browser' (the > debian package name) with the liberation procedure being specified as: > > "Remove program/package Use GNU IceCat, or equivalent" [...] > it was also agreed upon at that time, that the FSDG criteria should be > applicable to all currently endorsed distros in perpetuity, so ... thank you for the clarification, Bill: you explained us the entire FSDG_Checklist is *mandatory* for a distro to be GNU FSDG compliant; so there's **no discussion** here if Guix System Distribution wants to remain GNU FSDG compliant - as most if not all Guix contributors would like, I suppose - ungoogled-chromium should still not be included in Guix System Distribution so, regarding this bug #28004 the natural resolution should be to *postpone* the inclusion of this package with a statement like this one: "ungoogled-chromium cannot be included in Guix System Distribution since it is listed - as 'chromium-browser' - on the page that is an integral part of the GNU FSDG Guidelines as extended by the FSDG_Checklist via https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Incoming_distros#Endorsem= ent_Process" Happy hacking! :-) Giovanni [1] https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.en.html =2D-=20 Giovanni Biscuolo Xelera IT Infrastructures --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEERcxjuFJYydVfNLI5030Op87MORIFAlxoXOkACgkQ030Op87M ORJVQw/+MeT+OL3S9VySebi3rL1GQkiaE8Qs6F3XPfAQUrcwYJNK+oRzpH3mjrbK 3UO7rUAbnzf6G4rojD4i3SaLa5nsw0z5gO3EpHtOQdx7iX/Ay+4TD0ixH92GLohC RlNgvRuR9i8pzzKJzZ7H7zFdRer2iUdCmaWjvCyhBwMrj/8258H25ZHSQZAdjEzy d/0e5PoQo14jrm7rZhMi+ZOuuZIraA4lTjOI4FS07sHR8hhgs0Rq92EmYAOGwk6v Qo2Ycm41vD1o8Uo2aGiUlRtDNNWfDXqEewoQCD1NzM/xmSb9L0QQ51SVXLQ4eF1Y hStfvvWb+bnIP6+nSzxcdK2s/TCdjNaYaTCASONCBCRJRPYo4UnII/9GoLa+LDFx 4YtfMEoyKu7oMI9yH+t6xYzYRydB/WagPLxpV+G5CK58ZkUcN+2vxlOw0SgzaNL3 /x5seVPgYDhWznmPZoZbM4jyI3e3xHIuZivI8jhGINUlc7XJd3pGZaYSa3uP3CzC alCduWa8fk9dzYFreyULG6sQ3XZ1d+ocgRaI2u5oxy8iG4x5IzSIZLVdXPyqdXvn 4BGPHwQ2j1wdH+dhDC7pHWXmAqnIxnmvr8dX6dAZLV1fHZOjRDfPPKIXsT/L9n94 73Ffx4K5C4GT/MYyWVK+j4gF7ZTCp2V9WgN53kzrUWjX0ozZqhQ= =qVmx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--