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* [bug#56618] [PATCH 0/2] Let 'guix gc -d' delete old Home generations
@ 2022-07-17 15:19 Ludovic Courtès
  2022-07-17 15:21 ` [bug#56618] [PATCH 1/2] home: Add 'home-generation-base' Ludovic Courtès
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2022-07-17 15:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 56618; +Cc: Ludovic Courtès

Hi!

This change lets ‘guix gc -d 4m’ (say) do what one can expect, which is
to delete not just bare profile generations but also Home generations.

Thoughts?

Ludo’.

Ludovic Courtès (2):
  home: Add 'home-generation-base'.
  guix gc: '--delete-generations' now deletes old Home generations.

 doc/guix.texi       |  3 ++-
 gnu/home.scm        | 26 ++++++++++++++++++++++++--
 guix/scripts/gc.scm |  6 ++++--
 3 files changed, 30 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)


base-commit: 4ce7f1fb24a111f3e92d5b889d1271bebf109d09
-- 
2.36.1





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* [bug#56618] [PATCH 1/2] home: Add 'home-generation-base'.
  2022-07-17 15:19 [bug#56618] [PATCH 0/2] Let 'guix gc -d' delete old Home generations Ludovic Courtès
@ 2022-07-17 15:21 ` Ludovic Courtès
  2022-07-17 15:21   ` [bug#56618] [PATCH 2/2] guix gc: '--delete-generations' now deletes old Home generations Ludovic Courtès
  2022-07-18 12:51   ` [bug#56618] [PATCH 1/2] home: Add 'home-generation-base' Andrew Tropin
  2022-07-18 12:59 ` [bug#56618] [PATCH 0/2] Let 'guix gc -d' delete old Home generations Andrew Tropin
  2022-07-22 22:42 ` bug#56618: " Ludovic Courtès
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2022-07-17 15:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 56618; +Cc: Ludovic Courtès

* gnu/home.scm (%profile-generation-rx): New variable.
(home-generation-base): New procedure.
---
 gnu/home.scm | 26 ++++++++++++++++++++++++--
 1 file changed, 24 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/gnu/home.scm b/gnu/home.scm
index a9f0a469a5..4ddbafe412 100644
--- a/gnu/home.scm
+++ b/gnu/home.scm
@@ -1,5 +1,6 @@
 ;;; GNU Guix --- Functional package management for GNU
 ;;; Copyright © 2021 Andrew Tropin <andrew@trop.in>
+;;; Copyright © 2022 Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org>
 ;;;
 ;;; This file is part of GNU Guix.
 ;;;
@@ -27,7 +28,8 @@ (define-module (gnu home)
   #:use-module (guix diagnostics)
   #:use-module (guix gexp)
   #:use-module (guix store)
-
+  #:use-module (ice-9 match)
+  #:use-module (ice-9 regex)
   #:export (home-environment
             home-environment?
             this-home-environment
@@ -38,7 +40,9 @@ (define-module (gnu home)
             home-environment-services
             home-environment-location
 
-            home-environment-with-provenance))
+            home-environment-with-provenance
+
+            home-generation-base))
 
 ;;; Comment:
 ;;;
@@ -114,3 +118,21 @@ (define-gexp-compiler (home-environment-compiler (he <home-environment>)
       (run-with-store store (home-environment-derivation he)
                       #:system system
                       #:target target)))))
+
+(define %profile-generation-rx
+  ;; Regexp that matches profile generation.
+  (make-regexp "(.*)-([0-9]+)-link$"))
+
+(define (home-generation-base file)
+  "If FILE is a Home generation GC root such as \"guix-home-42-link\",
+return its corresponding base---e.g., \"guix-home\".  Otherwise return #f.
+
+This is similar to the 'generation-profile' procedure but applied to Home
+generations."
+  (match (regexp-exec %profile-generation-rx file)
+    (#f #f)
+    (m  (let ((profile (match:substring m 1)))
+          ;; Distinguish from a "real" profile and from a system generation.
+          (and (file-exists? (string-append profile "/on-first-login"))
+               (file-exists? (string-append profile "/profile/manifest"))
+               profile)))))
-- 
2.36.1





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* [bug#56618] [PATCH 2/2] guix gc: '--delete-generations' now deletes old Home generations.
  2022-07-17 15:21 ` [bug#56618] [PATCH 1/2] home: Add 'home-generation-base' Ludovic Courtès
@ 2022-07-17 15:21   ` Ludovic Courtès
  2022-07-18 12:51   ` [bug#56618] [PATCH 1/2] home: Add 'home-generation-base' Andrew Tropin
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2022-07-17 15:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 56618; +Cc: Ludovic Courtès

Previously, 'guix gc -d4m' would ignore Home generations.  With this
change, they are treated like profiles and generations that match the
pattern are deleted.

* guix/scripts/gc.scm (guix-gc)[delete-generations]: Add call to
'home-generation-base'.
* doc/guix.texi (Invoking guix gc): Document the change.
---
 doc/guix.texi       | 3 ++-
 guix/scripts/gc.scm | 6 ++++--
 2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/guix.texi b/doc/guix.texi
index 8fc8f53d0e..f3f3189f64 100644
--- a/doc/guix.texi
+++ b/doc/guix.texi
@@ -4362,7 +4362,8 @@ nothing and exit immediately.
 @item --delete-generations[=@var{duration}]
 @itemx -d [@var{duration}]
 Before starting the garbage collection process, delete all the generations
-older than @var{duration}, for all the user profiles; when run as root, this
+older than @var{duration}, for all the user profiles and home environment
+generations; when run as root, this
 applies to all the profiles @emph{of all the users}.
 
 For example, this command deletes all the generations of all your profiles
diff --git a/guix/scripts/gc.scm b/guix/scripts/gc.scm
index 043273f491..65cd4bdf8b 100644
--- a/guix/scripts/gc.scm
+++ b/guix/scripts/gc.scm
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 ;;; GNU Guix --- Functional package management for GNU
-;;; Copyright © 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020 Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org>
+;;; Copyright © 2012-2013, 2015-2020, 2022 Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org>
 ;;;
 ;;; This file is part of GNU Guix.
 ;;;
@@ -26,6 +26,7 @@ (define-module (guix scripts gc)
                                 profile-generations
                                 generation-number)
   #:autoload   (guix scripts package) (delete-generations)
+  #:autoload   (gnu home) (home-generation-base)
   #:use-module (ice-9 match)
   #:use-module (ice-9 regex)
   #:use-module (srfi srfi-1)
@@ -260,7 +261,8 @@ (define (delete-generations store pattern)
                      (filter-map (lambda (root)
                                    (and (or (zero? (getuid))
                                             (user-owned? root))
-                                        (generation-profile root)))
+                                        (or (generation-profile root)
+                                            (home-generation-base root))))
                                  (gc-roots)))))
       (for-each (lambda (profile)
                   (delete-old-generations store profile pattern))
-- 
2.36.1





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* [bug#56618] [PATCH 1/2] home: Add 'home-generation-base'.
  2022-07-17 15:21 ` [bug#56618] [PATCH 1/2] home: Add 'home-generation-base' Ludovic Courtès
  2022-07-17 15:21   ` [bug#56618] [PATCH 2/2] guix gc: '--delete-generations' now deletes old Home generations Ludovic Courtès
@ 2022-07-18 12:51   ` Andrew Tropin
  2022-07-19  8:01     ` Ludovic Courtès
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Tropin @ 2022-07-18 12:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ludovic Courtès, 56618; +Cc: Ludovic Courtès

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On 2022-07-17 17:21, Ludovic Courtès wrote:

> * gnu/home.scm (%profile-generation-rx): New variable.
> (home-generation-base): New procedure.
> ---
>  gnu/home.scm | 26 ++++++++++++++++++++++++--
>  1 file changed, 24 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/gnu/home.scm b/gnu/home.scm
> index a9f0a469a5..4ddbafe412 100644
> --- a/gnu/home.scm
> +++ b/gnu/home.scm
> @@ -1,5 +1,6 @@
>  ;;; GNU Guix --- Functional package management for GNU
>  ;;; Copyright © 2021 Andrew Tropin <andrew@trop.in>
> +;;; Copyright © 2022 Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org>
>  ;;;
>  ;;; This file is part of GNU Guix.
>  ;;;
> @@ -27,7 +28,8 @@ (define-module (gnu home)
>    #:use-module (guix diagnostics)
>    #:use-module (guix gexp)
>    #:use-module (guix store)
> -
> +  #:use-module (ice-9 match)
> +  #:use-module (ice-9 regex)
>    #:export (home-environment
>              home-environment?
>              this-home-environment
> @@ -38,7 +40,9 @@ (define-module (gnu home)
>              home-environment-services
>              home-environment-location
>  
> -            home-environment-with-provenance))
> +            home-environment-with-provenance
> +
> +            home-generation-base))
>  
>  ;;; Comment:
>  ;;;
> @@ -114,3 +118,21 @@ (define-gexp-compiler (home-environment-compiler (he <home-environment>)
>        (run-with-store store (home-environment-derivation he)
>                        #:system system
>                        #:target target)))))
> +
> +(define %profile-generation-rx
> +  ;; Regexp that matches profile generation.
> +  (make-regexp "(.*)-([0-9]+)-link$"))
> +
> +(define (home-generation-base file)
> +  "If FILE is a Home generation GC root such as \"guix-home-42-link\",
> +return its corresponding base---e.g., \"guix-home\".  Otherwise return #f.
> +
> +This is similar to the 'generation-profile' procedure but applied to Home
> +generations."
> +  (match (regexp-exec %profile-generation-rx file)
> +    (#f #f)
> +    (m  (let ((profile (match:substring m 1)))

Is home environment and operating system a profile itself?  They reside
in /var/guix/profile, but they have profile/ directory inside, so do
they profiles themselves?  I don't propose any changes, just asking.

> +          ;; Distinguish from a "real" profile and from a system generation.
> +          (and (file-exists? (string-append profile "/on-first-login"))
> +               (file-exists? (string-append profile "/profile/manifest"))
> +               profile)))))

-- 
Best regards,
Andrew Tropin

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* [bug#56618] [PATCH 0/2] Let 'guix gc -d' delete old Home generations
  2022-07-17 15:19 [bug#56618] [PATCH 0/2] Let 'guix gc -d' delete old Home generations Ludovic Courtès
  2022-07-17 15:21 ` [bug#56618] [PATCH 1/2] home: Add 'home-generation-base' Ludovic Courtès
@ 2022-07-18 12:59 ` Andrew Tropin
  2022-07-19  8:28   ` Ludovic Courtès
  2022-07-22 22:42 ` bug#56618: " Ludovic Courtès
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Tropin @ 2022-07-18 12:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ludovic Courtès, 56618; +Cc: Ludovic Courtès

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On 2022-07-17 17:19, Ludovic Courtès wrote:

> Hi!
>
> This change lets ‘guix gc -d 4m’ (say) do what one can expect, which is
> to delete not just bare profile generations but also Home generations.
>
> Thoughts?

Hi Ludovic,

Sounds reasonable.  Do we want the same functionality for operating
system generations if gc called by root or with sudo?

-- 
Best regards,
Andrew Tropin

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* [bug#56618] [PATCH 1/2] home: Add 'home-generation-base'.
  2022-07-18 12:51   ` [bug#56618] [PATCH 1/2] home: Add 'home-generation-base' Andrew Tropin
@ 2022-07-19  8:01     ` Ludovic Courtès
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2022-07-19  8:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Tropin; +Cc: 56618

Hi,

Andrew Tropin <andrew@trop.in> skribis:

> Is home environment and operating system a profile itself?  They reside
> in /var/guix/profile, but they have profile/ directory inside, so do
> they profiles themselves?

No, they’re not profiles (they contain a profile), so they need to be
treated specially for the purposes of ‘guix gc -d’.

Ludo’.




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* [bug#56618] [PATCH 0/2] Let 'guix gc -d' delete old Home generations
  2022-07-18 12:59 ` [bug#56618] [PATCH 0/2] Let 'guix gc -d' delete old Home generations Andrew Tropin
@ 2022-07-19  8:28   ` Ludovic Courtès
  2022-07-19  9:46     ` Andrew Tropin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2022-07-19  8:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Tropin; +Cc: 56618

Hi,

Andrew Tropin <andrew@trop.in> skribis:

> Sounds reasonable.  Do we want the same functionality for operating
> system generations if gc called by root or with sudo?

It would be nice, but it’s not really doable: currently ‘guix system
delete-generations’ reinstalls the bootloader, which means it needs to
build things (we can’t just delete old generations).

Ludo’.




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* [bug#56618] [PATCH 0/2] Let 'guix gc -d' delete old Home generations
  2022-07-19  8:28   ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2022-07-19  9:46     ` Andrew Tropin
  2022-07-21  9:07       ` Ludovic Courtès
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Tropin @ 2022-07-19  9:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: 56618

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On 2022-07-19 10:28, Ludovic Courtès wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Andrew Tropin <andrew@trop.in> skribis:
>
>> Sounds reasonable.  Do we want the same functionality for operating
>> system generations if gc called by root or with sudo?
>
> It would be nice, but it’s not really doable: currently ‘guix system
> delete-generations’ reinstalls the bootloader, which means it needs to
> build things (we can’t just delete old generations).

Make sense.

BTW, a little offtopic (related to gc, but not related to these changes)
problem I have, which is very annoying: After guix gc, guix home
rebuilds/redownloads a lot of stuff.  The configuration and channels are
absolutely the same.

guix home reconfigure home-configs.scm # builds/downloads a lot of stuff
guix gc
guix home reconfigure home-configs.scm # do everything again

Am I missing something and it is expected behavior or is it a bug?

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Compilation started at Tue Jul 19 12:03:18

make -k home 
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guix home --fallback reconfigure --allow-downgrades \
--substitute-urls='http://ci.guix.trop.in https://bordeaux.guix.gnu.org https://substitutes.nonguix.org' \
./rde/examples/abcdw/configs.scm
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* [bug#56618] [PATCH 0/2] Let 'guix gc -d' delete old Home generations
  2022-07-19  9:46     ` Andrew Tropin
@ 2022-07-21  9:07       ` Ludovic Courtès
  2022-07-21 20:10         ` Maxim Cournoyer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2022-07-21  9:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andrew Tropin; +Cc: 56618

Hi,

Andrew Tropin <andrew@trop.in> skribis:

> BTW, a little offtopic (related to gc, but not related to these changes)
> problem I have, which is very annoying: After guix gc, guix home
> rebuilds/redownloads a lot of stuff.  The configuration and channels are
> absolutely the same.
>
> guix home reconfigure home-configs.scm # builds/downloads a lot of stuff
> guix gc
> guix home reconfigure home-configs.scm # do everything again
>
> Am I missing something and it is expected behavior or is it a bug?

It’s an expected annoyance: to determine whether a graft needs to be
applied, we first need to download/build the ungrafted variant, which is
why you’re seeing this (this is worsened by the fact that many packages
are candidates for grafting currently on ‘master’).

Ludo’.




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* [bug#56618] [PATCH 0/2] Let 'guix gc -d' delete old Home generations
  2022-07-21  9:07       ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2022-07-21 20:10         ` Maxim Cournoyer
  2022-07-22 12:20           ` Ludovic Courtès
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Maxim Cournoyer @ 2022-07-21 20:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: 56618, Andrew Tropin

Hi Ludo,

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

> Hi,
>
> Andrew Tropin <andrew@trop.in> skribis:
>
>> BTW, a little offtopic (related to gc, but not related to these changes)
>> problem I have, which is very annoying: After guix gc, guix home
>> rebuilds/redownloads a lot of stuff.  The configuration and channels are
>> absolutely the same.
>>
>> guix home reconfigure home-configs.scm # builds/downloads a lot of stuff
>> guix gc
>> guix home reconfigure home-configs.scm # do everything again
>>
>> Am I missing something and it is expected behavior or is it a bug?
>
> It’s an expected annoyance: to determine whether a graft needs to be
> applied, we first need to download/build the ungrafted variant, which is
> why you’re seeing this (this is worsened by the fact that many packages
> are candidates for grafting currently on ‘master’).

A perhaps naive idea: could we register GC roots for the ungrafted
variant when grafted?  To avoid having to fetch it anew following 'guix
gc' ?

Thanks,

Maxim




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* [bug#56618] [PATCH 0/2] Let 'guix gc -d' delete old Home generations
  2022-07-21 20:10         ` Maxim Cournoyer
@ 2022-07-22 12:20           ` Ludovic Courtès
  2022-07-25  2:04             ` Maxim Cournoyer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2022-07-22 12:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Maxim Cournoyer; +Cc: 56618, Andrew Tropin

Hello,

Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> skribis:

> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

[...]

>> It’s an expected annoyance: to determine whether a graft needs to be
>> applied, we first need to download/build the ungrafted variant, which is
>> why you’re seeing this (this is worsened by the fact that many packages
>> are candidates for grafting currently on ‘master’).
>
> A perhaps naive idea: could we register GC roots for the ungrafted
> variant when grafted?  To avoid having to fetch it anew following 'guix
> gc' ?

And then we need code to remove those GC roots at some point, etc.  To
me that seems like a can of worms and lack of separation of concerns.

A related topic is GC.  If personally only ever use ‘guix gc -F25G’ or
similar; I almost never run ‘guix gc’ without arguments.  Perhaps we
should more clearly advocate that and/or have a Guix System service
enabled by default that does something along these lines.

Thoughts?

Ludo’.




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* bug#56618: [PATCH 0/2] Let 'guix gc -d' delete old Home generations
  2022-07-17 15:19 [bug#56618] [PATCH 0/2] Let 'guix gc -d' delete old Home generations Ludovic Courtès
  2022-07-17 15:21 ` [bug#56618] [PATCH 1/2] home: Add 'home-generation-base' Ludovic Courtès
  2022-07-18 12:59 ` [bug#56618] [PATCH 0/2] Let 'guix gc -d' delete old Home generations Andrew Tropin
@ 2022-07-22 22:42 ` Ludovic Courtès
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2022-07-22 22:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 56618-done; +Cc: Andrew Tropin

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> skribis:

>   home: Add 'home-generation-base'.
>   guix gc: '--delete-generations' now deletes old Home generations.

Pushed as ba22560627f848f40891a56355ff26b6de1380bc.




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* [bug#56618] [PATCH 0/2] Let 'guix gc -d' delete old Home generations
  2022-07-22 12:20           ` Ludovic Courtès
@ 2022-07-25  2:04             ` Maxim Cournoyer
  2022-08-01 12:39               ` Ludovic Courtès
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Maxim Cournoyer @ 2022-07-25  2:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: 56618, Andrew Tropin

Hi Ludo,

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

> Hello,
>
> Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> skribis:
>
>> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>>> It’s an expected annoyance: to determine whether a graft needs to be
>>> applied, we first need to download/build the ungrafted variant, which is
>>> why you’re seeing this (this is worsened by the fact that many packages
>>> are candidates for grafting currently on ‘master’).
>>
>> A perhaps naive idea: could we register GC roots for the ungrafted
>> variant when grafted?  To avoid having to fetch it anew following 'guix
>> gc' ?
>
> And then we need code to remove those GC roots at some point, etc.  To
> me that seems like a can of worms and lack of separation of concerns.

OK.

> A related topic is GC.  If personally only ever use ‘guix gc -F25G’ or
> similar; I almost never run ‘guix gc’ without arguments.  Perhaps we
> should more clearly advocate that and/or have a Guix System service
> enabled by default that does something along these lines.

If I'm not mistaken, the problem with 'guix gc -F' (or guix gc) in
general, is that it doesn't start by deleting the *oldest*, i.e. the
store items the user no longer use/cares about.  So you could have 'guix
gc -F25G' prune these recently fetched non-grafted variants again and
again, if you are unlucky.

Perhaps we could arrange for 'guix gc' to start deleting oldest items
first (as a default behavior)?  Then the above advice would provide more
value.

Thanks,

Maxim




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* [bug#56618] [PATCH 0/2] Let 'guix gc -d' delete old Home generations
  2022-07-25  2:04             ` Maxim Cournoyer
@ 2022-08-01 12:39               ` Ludovic Courtès
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2022-08-01 12:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Maxim Cournoyer; +Cc: 56618, Andrew Tropin

Hello,

Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> skribis:

> Perhaps we could arrange for 'guix gc' to start deleting oldest items
> first (as a default behavior)?  Then the above advice would provide more
> value.

Right now, the garbage collector simply collects unused items, without a
least-recently-used (LRU) policy or any such thing.

Given that in the store database items have a registration time (see
‘schema.sql’), it might be possible to sort items by registration date
before deleting them, and thus get some sort of LRU behavior.  We’d have
to check the feasibility and run-time cost.

Ludo’.




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