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"Thompson, David" skribis: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 2:40 AM Ricardo Wurmus wrote: >> >> Another thing that seems to be missing is a way to supervise and manage >> running containers. I use a shepherd instance for this with >> container-specific actions like this: > > Hey that's a real nice starting point for a container management tool! > So maybe there should be a system service to manage containers and > then a 'docker compose'-like tool for declaratively specifying > containers and their network bridging configuration that is a client > of the service? Agreed! We could turn Ricardo=E2=80=99s code into =E2=80=98container-guest= -service=E2=80=99 or something and have =E2=80=98containerized-operating-system=E2=80=99 add it automatically. Ludo=E2=80=99.