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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1669029254; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=9K1XXEcT73XJ2xC2i7HVWJ2Ykz86DPxuxy/WTGnI1iU=; b=dqlDwi9bJhkU3PimQxYzZtxmozogf4xd0z5y5nKwtJLDAH9rZnXvrtMLJtrQ+0awo8zcXW GMRcfjrtM4OOVZ0btrtDhIRFo1TIDKSq38izdLzRErxiTPtVTlI7QDvFmeEmCmWcex4UJe 7AcxlWPykyth0NQrvj4UarsDFST80DJpjJWNzQUFz65BrUAEMZHd/N3QUg47P8kR78Iuel Us7qEsDnRUpRKjRPW/KdF10pJLE7oGyTdUMCs9vYt+TlsDFArixE9CkJdcXPslsZxtiCJE dvA+wXdtetWi4uZFY3bDCjFNa22QgbFvJnvsvb3MgyIzerW1wL2zu75F6SBkPw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1669029254; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=go957wvCqMNh8xyp6Khpl9PwpaGaD6ygDhFA+eotrGdQZmt5W+x7TXGoUm0jyIdy1WjRo/ f/phdXDSQb1d2cHsrwuDv+86s699Swtj48YfREBlndDFIKlxbp26VpZNo6q3GgM5xM+6z7 TQagr4oPJmjOV6LIjcc/nQRYovI9jJdpM73MTQ9X3eDuDpHb16DEWuAMaBIfggxVoS7G6u DqQNpfn+vTCR7FLOaz9/MtjOo0dQlvNvnwttS6R/4bZcH3+04PtkHhwjWUedfMtJLk5GDl fRa4yU15hkdgGTw5mTHZfkCForabwrWYCQWutoRacDko+kzGr3uNZ2KYuP7+bg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=PWx5cF1Q; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.21 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gnu.org header.s=fencepost-gnu-org header.b=PWx5cF1Q; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: AB727C062 X-Spam-Score: -5.21 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: +i951nekZ5gz Hi, zamfofex skribis: > A few months ago, I picked up the work towards importing npm packages to = Guix by Jelle et al. in the hopes of continuing it, and I felt disheartened= when I concluded that it does indeed seem like a very large part of npm is= necessary to build even a simple package like jQuery. Christine had that great summary of the npm mess at the time: https://dustycloud.org/blog/javascript-packaging-dystopia/ With all its shortcomings, I think it would still be useful to merge Jelle=E2=80=99s npm importer (the =E2=80=9Cbinary=E2=80=9D importer), as di= scussed last year: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2021-09/msg00245.html Thumbs up to whoever submits it for inclusion! :-) (I won=E2=80=99t answer on =E2=80=98devDependencies=E2=80=99 issues because= JS is outside my area of expertise.) Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.