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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -8.51 X-Spam-Score: -8.51 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 827D813B8E X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-TUID: hTitFwDH2xxF Nguy=E1=BB=85n Gia Phong writes: > [[PGP Signed Part:Undecided]] > [1. text/plain] > On 2023-12-26 at 15:56+01:00, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: >> On 2023-12-26 at 14:53+01:00, Sergey Trofimov wrote: >> > - adding it to guix increases maintenance burden: new versions >> > could add or remove config options >> >> This is why there should be automated tests. >> There are too few of them. > > This is easier said than done. A program could [=E2=80=A6] Yes, it=E2=80=99s easy to say a lot of things. This is not an argument aga= inst providing tests *where feasible*. > I would also want to share my experience as a user, that having > to run guix home reconfigure iteratively is not exactly pleasant > due to the high delay. What=E2=80=99s a high delay? Is a one second reconfiguration too long for = what it does? I don=E2=80=99t think so. --=20 Ricardo