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Get wasm toolchain stuff merged. >>> > > 1b. Get Librewolf merged without WASM sandboxing. >>> > > 2. Update icecat, torbrowser, mullvad, and librewolf to=20 >>> > > use=20 >>> > > WASM sandboxing. >>> >=20 >>> > Excatly.=C2=A0 1b can be done after 1a, or before 1a. >>> >=20 >>>=20 >>> Is there a technical reason why landing WASM sandboxing=20 >>> support=20 >>> for all browsers in the same patch is desirable?=C2=A0 I can intuit=20 >>> none, and as I=E2=80=99m disinclined to either roll back portions of=20 >>> my=20 >>> existing patchset, or work on other browsers, the proposal is=20 >>> disagreeable. >> I think this ordering is w.r.t. *patch sets*, not patches. I=20 >> wouldn't >> suggest dropping four packages into one patch. > > Indeed I've never said it should be done in one patch. I said=20 > one-shot > as in =E2=80=98symmetrical=E2=80=99: the work required to add Wasm to our= =20 > browsers > should be more or less the same for all browsers, and code=20 > duplication > should be avoided. > Forgive me for my imprecision, and thank you for the explanation.=20 Unfortunately, the distinction makes little difference to me, as=20 it still would require me to do work I=E2=80=99m unwilling to do. My=20 unwillingness has less to do with the amount of work than its=20 scope: My goal is to get LibreWolf into Guix, and I simply have no=20 desire or motivation to work on other browsers. I think the best course of action is to reduce scope by removing=20 the WASM component of this patch series entirely. I=E2=80=99d send a new=20 patch series without the WASM toolchain packages, and with WASM=20 sandboxing disabled in the LibreWolf package. The official=20 LibreWolf binaries don=E2=80=99t appear to have this enabled, so no=20 hardening would be sacrified vs. LibreWolf installed any other=20 way. And since I=E2=80=99m not the original author of the WASM packages,=20 and not well-positioned to address problems with them, omitting=20 them seems likely to circumvent difficulties in the review process=20 and support of those. What do you think? Thanks, =E2=80=94 Ian