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Cc: Cayetano Santos , Simon Josefsson Subject: Re: On the quest for a new release model In-Reply-To: <87y10jpo13.fsf@kaka.sjd.se> (Simon Josefsson via's message of "Fri, 13 Dec 2024 17:04:40 +0100") References: <87a5d0dlm8.fsf@inventati.org> <87y10jpo13.fsf@kaka.sjd.se> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 12:47:23 -0500 Message-ID: <878qsjbhlg.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::f44; envelope-from=suhailsingh247@gmail.com; helo=mail-qv1-xf44.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.40 X-Spam-Score: -2.40 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D9ECFEE4 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-TUID: b4MBxM9WjQgY Simon Josefsson via "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." writes: > can we strip away almost all of the packages and still have a minimal > bootable system? If we minimize that set of really-core packages, > maybe there can be one team that works on this minimal bootable OS and > produce stable images that are fast to update. If people want to add > more packages, there is always the current "fat" rolling Guix git > repository that you can add on top of the small base OS. I proposed something similar some weeks ago [1]. Specifically, splitting Guix's monolithic repository into at least two different channels (perhaps more). These channels would be included in %default-channels, however, the main Guix repository would only include the packages from Ring-0 and Ring-1 (taking inspiration from OpenSUSE) [2]: #+begin_quote The core of Factory is divided into two rings (0-Bootstrap, 1-MinimalX). Ring 0 contains packages that form the most basic, minimalist system that can compile itself. On top of that Ring 1 adds what's in the default installation of the two primary Desktops. All other packages are not part of a ring. #+end_quote [1]: [2]: -- Suhail