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From: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: 01/01: gnu: vlc: Update to 2.2.0
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 12:30:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877fui1aw8.fsf@netris.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pp8av0ng.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Court\=C3\=A8s\=22'\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?s\?\= message of "Sun, 15 Mar 2015 14:41:07 +0100")

ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:

> "Jason Self" <jason@bluehome.net> skribis:
>
>> Anyway, Debian seems sufficently slow moving to me and so I looked at
>> that to get an idea of what might be acceptable. They have 3.5 in
>> Wheezy and are jumping to 3.16 for Jessie which I understand is due
>> soon? Given that, what about using 3.14? It is much newer and
>> supported until August 2016 [0].
>
> The real problem is that our libc must be able to work kernels typically
> found out there in the wild, which may be older than this.  Thus, 3.14
> may be a bit too recent.

Note that currently, we configure GNU libc with --enable-kernel=2.6.32
with headers from linux-libre-3.3.8.  If it's incorrect to use headers
from a kernel newer than the oldest kernel we wish to support, then
we're already doing it wrong.

> Now, I think libc’s --enable-kernel can specify a baseline older than
> the available kernel headers.  So it may be that we can use 3.14 headers
> but build a libc that assumes a kernel possibly as old as 3.4.

One data point: we're running Guix and also Nginx compiled with Guix on
Hydra which runs a 2.6.x kernel, and it seems to work.

Another data point: [GNU/]Linux From Scratch uses headers from Linux
3.19 and configures GNU libc with --enable-kernel=2.6.32.  As I recall
they've been doing this for years, always using headers from the most
recent kernel but configuring libc to support older kernels.

and another: Debian currently builds their libc against headers from
Linux 3.12.6 and with --enable-kernel=2.6.32.

In summary, I think using headers from 3.14 would be fine.

      Mark

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-15 16:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20150303133207.9875.94018@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <E1YSmvg-0002aH-2l@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2015-03-06 20:31   ` 01/01: gnu: vlc: Update to 2.2.0 Andreas Enge
2015-03-06 22:34     ` Axel
2015-03-12 20:45       ` Andreas Enge
2015-03-12 23:13         ` Mark H Weaver
2015-03-14 13:43           ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-03-14 16:47             ` Jason Self
2015-03-14 21:56               ` Andreas Enge
2015-03-15 13:41               ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-03-15 16:30                 ` Mark H Weaver [this message]
2015-03-16  8:50                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-03-10 16:28     ` Ludovic Courtès

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