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From: taylanbayirli@gmail.com (Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer)
To: Jean Louis <guix@rcdrun.com>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: MAME emulator is giving incentive to use non-free software
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 10:58:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877fglzmml.fsf@T420.taylan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160328215516.GA27719@protected.rcdrun.com> (Jean Louis's message of "Mon, 28 Mar 2016 23:55:16 +0200")

Jean Louis <guix@rcdrun.com> writes:

> [...]
>
> Including MAME or any other emulator, even though non-free as such, if
> such emulator is practically of no use to free software users without
> non-free additions or parts, firmware, blobs, or ROMs, is giving
> incentive to free software users to use non-free.
>
> [...]

For the record, we have a couple Nintendo emulators in games.scm.  In
particular I packaged Nestopia and Mupen64Plus a while back, and was
planning to add higan once I have a solution to its license issue...

These would have to go as well I suppose, if MAME will have to go.
They're clearly for playing non-free games, at least as far as I'm
concerned.

I don't have a strong opinion on the outcome of this.  Gaming is one
thing where I personally tolerate non-free software out of a lack of
meaningful alternatives.  (The artistic value of a well-made video game
cannot be duplicated, in contrast to its technical features as software,
which can be re-implemented.)  Having such emulators in the main package
repository is convenient for people like me, but I can't demand for this
to be supported by the project.


By the way, I'm no parenting expert, but I know that if I tried to
prohibit my child siblings from using their smartphones, tablets,
MS Windows laptops, and PlayStation, for playing non-free games and
using non-free software based services like YouTube, it would seem like
a stupid limitation to them "because everyone else does it" and they
would just go to their friends to do these things anyway.  It would just
not work.

Taylan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-29  8:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-28 21:55 MAME emulator is giving incentive to use non-free software Jean Louis
2016-03-29  0:26 ` Jookia
2016-03-29  4:42   ` Jean Louis
2016-03-29  6:27     ` Jookia
2016-03-29  7:30       ` Jean Louis
2016-03-29  8:25         ` Jookia
2016-03-29 11:35           ` rain1
2016-03-29 12:00             ` Jean Louis
2016-03-29 12:48               ` Nils Gillmann
2016-03-29 14:23               ` Mathieu Lirzin
2016-03-29 14:52                 ` Jean Louis
2016-03-29 16:15                   ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-29 17:29                     ` Jean Louis
2016-03-29 17:47                     ` Jean Louis
2016-03-29 12:41         ` Nils Gillmann
2016-03-29  1:44 ` Mark H Weaver
2016-03-29 13:03   ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-29 17:30   ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-03-29 17:32     ` Thompson, David
2016-03-29 17:37       ` Eric Bavier
2016-03-30 20:25     ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-29  8:58 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer [this message]
2016-03-29 10:12   ` Jean Louis
2016-03-29 13:14     ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-03-29 13:51       ` Jean Louis
2016-03-29 16:09         ` Ludovic Courtès
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-03-29 14:01 Jean Louis
2016-03-29 14:46 ` Nils Gillmann
2016-03-29 16:31 alírio eyng
2016-03-30 22:30 ` Isaac David
2016-04-02  3:17   ` Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
2016-03-31 22:50 ` alírio eyng
2016-04-01  6:23   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-04-01 12:15     ` alírio eyng
2016-04-01 20:03       ` alírio eyng
2016-04-02  2:19 ` Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
2016-04-02  8:48   ` [GNU-linux-libre] " alírio eyng
2016-04-03 14:20     ` alírio eyng
2016-04-03 18:36       ` alírio eyng
2016-04-03 19:39         ` Felipe Sanches
2016-04-03 21:02         ` alírio eyng
2016-04-03 21:22           ` Felipe Sanches
2016-04-04  3:26           ` alírio eyng
2016-04-04 11:19             ` Felipe Sanches
2016-04-04 22:23             ` alírio eyng
2016-04-04 22:47               ` [GNU-linux-libre] " Felipe Sanches
2016-04-04 22:58                 ` Felipe Sanches
2016-04-04 22:59                   ` Felipe Sanches
2016-04-05  2:29               ` alírio eyng
2016-04-09  9:00               ` Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
2016-04-09 19:43                 ` alírio eyng
2016-04-05 15:59     ` Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
2016-04-06 11:02       ` alírio eyng
2016-03-30  4:10 IngeGNUe
2016-03-30 16:11 ` Mark H Weaver
2016-03-30 21:26   ` IngeGNUe

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