From: Chris Marusich <cmmarusich@gmail.com>
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Parameterized packages
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2019 22:41:55 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <877e8e8tss.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8736ldq74z.fsf@netris.org> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Fri, 17 May 2019 14:15:29 -0400")
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Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> writes:
>> Ludovic Courtès wrote:
>>> While thinking about <https://issues.guix.info/issue/35671> and
>>> looking
>>> for ways to allow users to install just the locales they need right
>>> from
>>> ‘guix package’, I realized that “parameterized packages” are a
>>> low-hanging fruit
>>
>> Wow. Unexpected turn…
>>
>> I'm still thinking about this, so all this is just me doing it out
>> loud:
>>
>>> (package
>>> (inherit glibc-utf8-locales)
>>> (properties `((locales . ("zh_CN.utf8")))))
>>>
>>> and tadaam! we have a parameterized package.
>>>
>>> There’s a couple of gotchas:
>>>
>>> • We’d need to store more info in manifest entries so that
>>> transformation options are preserved upon ‘guix upgrade’.
>>>
>>> • We might need to expose the package parameters somehow, so
>>> that if
>>> one types ‘--with-argument=foobar.z’, they get a correct
>>> error
>>> message saying that “foobar” is not a known parameter.
>>
>> Interesting idea to piggy-back on the properties field, and it might
>> save some code (at least initially), but I don't see the overlap here.
>>
>> None of the current properties (superseded, upstream-name, *-variant,
>> cpe-name, hidden?) make much sense to expose in this way; they're
>> semimmutable facts about the package.
>
> Also, at present, the current 'properties' field can be changed without
> changing the derivation, and I think that's quite useful. It's nice to
> be able to do things like increase the build timeouts on a core package,
> for the sake of a slow architecture, without forcing rebuilds of
> everything on top of that package on other architectures.
>
> So, I would prefer to see a different package field used for this.
I agree with Mark; using a custom package field seems better here
because the arguments change the derivation (don't they?), but
properties do not. Maybe "argument-overrides"?
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Chris
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-07-19 5:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-14 11:54 Parameterized packages Ludovic Courtès
2019-05-14 15:17 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2019-05-17 14:23 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2019-05-17 18:15 ` Mark H Weaver
2019-07-19 5:41 ` Chris Marusich [this message]
2019-07-19 20:29 ` ison
2020-01-02 19:23 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-09 11:10 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-09 23:13 ` Marius Bakke
2020-01-10 12:29 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-10 16:19 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-11 11:31 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-14 15:05 ` zimoun
2020-01-15 9:40 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15 11:30 ` zimoun
2020-01-15 11:51 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15 13:54 ` zimoun
2020-01-16 19:06 ` ison
2020-01-16 20:55 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-01-17 16:34 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-17 9:15 ` L p R n d n
2020-01-17 16:46 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-17 15:53 ` zimoun
2020-01-17 16:56 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-20 14:34 ` zimoun
2020-01-21 10:56 ` Build systems and implicit inputs Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-21 12:24 ` zimoun
2020-01-21 13:07 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-21 18:02 ` zimoun
2020-01-19 20:34 ` Parameterized packages Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-20 9:08 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-20 14:50 ` zimoun
2020-01-20 18:57 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-20 19:07 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-20 22:57 ` ison
2020-01-21 10:09 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-21 10:49 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-21 12:15 ` zimoun
2020-01-21 13:13 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-21 19:04 ` zimoun
2020-01-22 9:54 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-22 12:23 ` zimoun
2020-01-24 21:56 ` ison
2020-01-26 19:35 ` zimoun
2020-01-27 10:13 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-27 11:23 ` zimoun
2020-01-27 11:50 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-27 12:34 ` zimoun
2020-01-27 10:04 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-25 18:52 ` John Soo
2020-01-27 10:17 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-20 14:12 ` zimoun
2020-01-17 16:31 ` Pierre Neidhardt
[not found] ` <875zhbvzfz.fsf@guixSD.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
2020-01-17 16:41 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-19 20:30 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-01-15 11:43 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-01-15 11:44 ` Pierre Neidhardt
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