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Haigh (+ML.GNU.Guix subaddress)" , help-guix@gnu.org Subject: Re: Architecture to reduce download time when pulling multiple packages =?utf-8?Q?=E2=80=93?= historic success with magnet URLs, BTIHs, & Aria2c! Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 09:11:21 +0100 In-reply-to: Message-ID: <877cnk5ote.fsf@cbaines.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:7e00:e000:2f8:fd4d:b5c7:13fb:3d27; envelope-from=mail@cbaines.net; helo=mira.cbaines.net X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -8.18 X-Spam-Score: -8.18 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 6044457962 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx2.migadu.com X-TUID: 614PvzLiGr4j --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Josh Marshall writes: > what I want to implement is to parallelize obtaining > packages. Server side vs client side. This is already possible, if you enable parallel build jobs, then you'll get parallel downloads. There's also been work to allow controling these things separately. > So it sounds like my first steps are to re-implement the downloads > using aria2c. This would affect the minimum base package, no? Can I > get some buy-in from maintainers that such changes are acceptable? 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