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Fri, 20 Dec 2024 04:18:09 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer To: Greg Hogan Cc: Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?= , Suhail Singh , Ricardo Wurmus , guix-devel@gnu.org, guix-maintainers@gnu.org, Cayetano Santos , Efraim Flashner Subject: Re: On the quest for a new release model In-Reply-To: (Greg Hogan's message of "Thu, 19 Dec 2024 13:03:27 -0500") References: <87a5d0dlm8.fsf@inventati.org> <87ttb7rds6.fsf@elephly.net> <87pllskibl.fsf@elephly.net> <87o71c1yuf.fsf@gmail.com> <87bjxbu55j.fsf@gmail.com> <87h671j5s6.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 21:17:59 +0900 Message-ID: <877c7uy2dk.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::1036; envelope-from=maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com; helo=mail-pj1-x1036.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -8.59 X-Spam-Score: -8.59 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 3BD4880CF9 X-TUID: RCfM7F5WpA3t Hi, Greg Hogan writes: > On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 11:49=E2=80=AFAM Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> As has been discussed multiple times at the Guix Days and on this list >> (I think?), I believe what we need is a release team with rotating >> duties. That is, a bunch of 3=E2=80=935 people commit to doing the work= leading >> to 1.5.0; then a new team (possibly with overlap) takes over for the >> next version, and so on. > > So a release team like every other team? An etc/teams.scm team (as > opposed to a mailing list team) also promotes the notion that much of > the needed work is outside of the release process. There were several > ideas for improvement earlier in this thread, but for another I > noticed that NixOS provides AMIs. If someone was to create the > necessary scripts and documentation for publishing Guix release AMIs > it would be handy to have a team to guide that contribution. It could be an etc/teams.scm team, although these have so far always existed with a scope of files, that works in conjunction with 'git send-email' to notify people of modified files. I don't have anything against the idea though; they'd at least serve as a record of who to contact for some scope of responsibility. >> This is what NixOS has been doing for some time, for example, and it has >> several advantages: it distributes responsibilities and power, and it >> ensure everything is properly documented so people can actually carry >> out the task. > > Looking through doc/release.org, much of the work should be the > responsibility of other teams. NEWS could be updated when team > branches are merged. That's a low hanging fruit that would greatly help picking to ease the work of producing a new release: some new contributing guidance that would mention new significant features should have an entry written in both the NEWS file and etc/news.scm. --=20 Thanks, Maxim