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From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
To: Greg Hogan <code@greghogan.com>
Cc: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>,
	"Suhail Singh" <suhailsingh247@gmail.com>,
	"Ricardo Wurmus" <rekado@elephly.net>,
	guix-devel@gnu.org, guix-maintainers@gnu.org,
	"Cayetano Santos" <csantosb@inventati.org>,
	"Efraim Flashner" <efraim@flashner.co.il>
Subject: Re: On the quest for a new release model
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 21:17:59 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877c7uy2dk.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+3U0Z=12yQT3hjjEfvm==0WpRBGHp4mb4XHLpxC5XNuP_ANQA@mail.gmail.com> (Greg Hogan's message of "Thu, 19 Dec 2024 13:03:27 -0500")

Hi,

Greg Hogan <code@greghogan.com> writes:

> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 11:49 AM Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
>> As has been discussed multiple times at the Guix Days and on this list
>> (I think?), I believe what we need is a release team with rotating
>> duties.  That is, a bunch of 3–5 people commit to doing the work leading
>> to 1.5.0; then a new team (possibly with overlap) takes over for the
>> next version, and so on.
>
> So a release team like every other team? An etc/teams.scm team (as
> opposed to a mailing list team) also promotes the notion that much of
> the needed work is outside of the release process. There were several
> ideas for improvement earlier in this thread, but for another I
> noticed that NixOS provides AMIs. If someone was to create the
> necessary scripts and documentation for publishing Guix release AMIs
> it would be handy to have a team to guide that contribution.

It could be an etc/teams.scm team, although these have so far always
existed with a scope of files, that works in conjunction with 'git
send-email' to notify people of modified files.  I don't have anything
against the idea though; they'd at least serve as a record of who to
contact for some scope of responsibility.

>> This is what NixOS has been doing for some time, for example, and it has
>> several advantages: it distributes responsibilities and power, and it
>> ensure everything is properly documented so people can actually carry
>> out the task.
>
> Looking through doc/release.org, much of the work should be the
> responsibility of other teams. NEWS could be updated when team
> branches are merged.

That's a low hanging fruit that would greatly help picking to ease the
work of producing a new release: some new contributing guidance that
would mention new significant features should have an entry written in
both the NEWS file and etc/news.scm.

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-20 12:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-09 12:19 Discussion notes on releases and branches Andreas Enge
2023-02-12 21:13 ` Moving forward with teams and feature branches (was: Discussion notes on releases and branches) Josselin Poiret
2023-02-12 21:34   ` Andreas Enge
2023-02-13  9:32   ` Time for RFC? (was Re: Moving forward with teams and feature branches (was: Discussion notes on releases and branches)) zimoun
2023-02-13 14:04   ` bug#61475: Staging branch (was: Moving forward with teams and feature branches) Andreas Enge
2023-05-10  2:55     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-02-13 14:07   ` Moving forward with teams and feature branches (was: Discussion notes on releases and branches) Andreas Enge
2023-02-14 19:12     ` Leo Famulari
2023-02-13  9:22 ` Release (was " Simon Tournier
2023-02-14 10:14 ` Rust team branch " Efraim Flashner
2023-02-14 16:36   ` Rust team branch Andreas Enge
2023-02-14 20:07     ` Efraim Flashner
2023-02-16 10:56       ` Andreas Enge
2023-02-14 16:36   ` Rust team branch (was Re: Discussion notes on releases and branches) Katherine Cox-Buday
2023-02-14 20:08     ` Efraim Flashner
2023-02-15 17:49       ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2023-03-17 15:24 ` Discussion notes on releases and branches Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2023-03-18 17:42   ` Leo Famulari
2024-12-13  8:37 ` On the quest for a new release model (was: Discussion notes on releases and branches) Cayetano Santos
2024-12-13 12:03   ` On the quest for a new release model Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-13 13:01     ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 15:21       ` Greg Hogan
2024-12-13 15:52         ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 16:05           ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 16:28           ` Cayetano Santos
2024-12-13 17:21             ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 20:34               ` Cayetano Santos
2024-12-13 22:13               ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-13 22:27                 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 23:08                 ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-12-14  1:38                   ` John Kehayias via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-12-14 17:18                     ` kiasoc5
2024-12-14 18:00                     ` Cayetano Santos
2024-12-14 20:53                   ` Attila Lendvai
2024-12-15  8:44     ` Efraim Flashner
2024-12-15 16:43       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-15 20:21         ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-15 22:49           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-15 23:33             ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-16  9:43           ` Efraim Flashner
2024-12-16 13:30             ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-12-16 16:28               ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-18 16:48               ` Ludovic Courtès
2024-12-18 17:31                 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-18 17:42                   ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-19 17:56                     ` Greg Hogan
2024-12-20 12:06                       ` Maxim Cournoyer
2024-12-21 13:18                         ` Andreas Enge
2024-12-20 22:07                       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2024-12-19 18:03                 ` Greg Hogan
2024-12-20 12:17                   ` Maxim Cournoyer [this message]
2024-12-16 10:47         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2024-12-16 16:14           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-18 18:54       ` Vagrant Cascadian
2024-12-13 16:04   ` Simon Josefsson via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-12-13 17:47     ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 20:14       ` Tomas Volf
2024-12-13 22:13         ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14  8:59           ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-14 14:23             ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14 12:26           ` Tomas Volf
2024-12-14 14:49             ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14  8:53     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-14 17:21       ` Splitting up Guix channel (was: On the quest for a new release model) Suhail Singh

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