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From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Preliminary 'wip-armhf' branch pushed
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2015 20:07:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8761cnbs3v.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vbkoygyp.fsf@yeeloong.lan> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Fri, 02 Jan 2015 17:07:26 -0500")

Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> skribis:

> ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes:
>
>> Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org> skribis:
>>
>>> I don't think we need a 'system' for every combination of flags.  We
>>> should just find a small number of "sweet spots" in the tradeoff between
>>> minimum requirements vs performance.  IMO, for 32-bit ARM, two systems
>>> should be enough: armhf, and maybe another one (armel?) that works on
>>> lower-end processors.
>>
>> It’s not even clear that “hf” needs to be part of the system name.
>
> I think it needs to be part of the system name, because on ARM these are
> two incompatible ABIs.  Among other things, the hard-float ABI passes
> floating point arguments in registers.
>
>> In theory, the bootstrap tarballs could be soft-float, which means they
>> would run everywhere, and from there users could choose what
>> --with-float and --with-fpu flags to use.
>
> A single GCC can generate code for both ABIs, but each ABI uses its own
> dynamic linker.  If we did as you suggest, we'd need two separate
> bootstrap glibc's, and improve the dynamic-linker-name patching code in
> our gcc package to rewrite the two dynamic linker names separately, etc.

Very good points, I had overlooked this.

Thanks,
Ludo’.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-03 19:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-31 17:31 Preliminary 'wip-armhf' branch pushed Mark H Weaver
2014-12-31 17:47 ` John Darrington
2014-12-31 19:23   ` Mark H Weaver
2014-12-31 20:20     ` John Darrington
2014-12-31 23:40       ` Mark H Weaver
2015-01-01  6:14         ` John Darrington
2015-01-01  7:11           ` Mark H Weaver
2015-01-01  7:24             ` John Darrington
2015-01-01 18:22               ` Mark H Weaver
2015-01-01 19:04                 ` John Darrington
2015-01-02 20:48     ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-01-02 22:07       ` Mark H Weaver
2015-01-03 19:07         ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2014-12-31 22:24 ` Mark H Weaver
2014-12-31 22:55   ` Mark H Weaver
2015-01-01 18:53 ` Problem with natively-built armhf bootstrap compiler Mark H Weaver
2015-01-02  2:19   ` Mark H Weaver
2015-01-02  4:56     ` Mark H Weaver
2015-01-02 21:06       ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-01-03 18:37         ` Mark H Weaver
2015-01-07 13:15           ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-01-07 15:15             ` Mark H Weaver
2015-01-07 15:30               ` [PATCH] gnu: gcc-static: Remove -lgcc_s from GNU_USER_TARGET_LIB_SPEC Mark H Weaver
2015-01-07 17:15                 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-01-02 20:45 ` Preliminary 'wip-armhf' branch pushed Ludovic Courtès
2015-01-03 18:49   ` Mark H Weaver

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