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Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 =C4=8Cech <sleep_walker@gnu.org> skribis:

> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:21:35PM +0100, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote:

[...]

>>> On openSUSE you have available all the subpackage providing stripped
>>> debug informations and subpackage providing source code from the
>>> moment of build (so DWARF information in debug part can match the sourc=
e).
>>
>>You mean there=E2=80=99s a =E2=80=98-debug=E2=80=99 package for every sin=
gle package?
>
> For every single binary package, yes. You can suppress it too. Why it
> is so surprising?

It=E2=80=99s just that I didn=E2=80=99t know, and my recollection is that D=
ebian doesn=E2=80=99t
have -dbg packages for every package.

> I would like to move the decision whether to keep or to drop debug
> information outside of the build itself to keep the hash the same.
>
> Imagine situation where you added "debug" output to every package and
> after each build the newly generated store with debug information is
> deleted (carefully, not to corrupt database, of course). Your hash
> still will be the same.

I see what you mean, but again, that=E2=80=99s not how it works, and I would
argue that it=E2=80=99s not desirable.

To move forward, a possible action would be to try to have =E2=80=98outputs=
=E2=80=99
default to '("out" "debug") and see (1) how much breaks, and (2) how
much space.

Would you like to give it a try?

Thanks,
Ludo=E2=80=99.