John, > * I am not playing a game - I think this is very serious. > * I have not breached the code of conduct (at your request I have just read > it again). > * I am trying my *utmost* to act with restraint and consideration in the face > of persistent provocation. > * I have said on several occasions that we should all agree to live with > our differences and let this thread stop. thank you for your clarification. We’d like to end discussions in this thread, so let me just make a final statement on behalf of the maintainers. Some of your comments in this thread were considered derogatory, and they actively made at least one participant uncomfortable. This outcome is undesirable and as a group we need to make sure it does not happen again. Re-reading the thread I see that some of your earlier off-topic statements in the thread can be interpreted as antagonising, even if you hold they were not *meant* to be hurtful or trolling. The same applies to some comments and examples that were made in later messages to illustrate your points. ng0 asked for multiple times that “singular they” be used when referring to them. Your response to the use of “singular they” was “I refuse to use it”. 1. In the future, please respect the gender of participants by using the pronouns they ask for (when they do). Alternatively, use their names instead of pronouns. 2. Avoid assumptions by using gender-neutral wording. This project considers this form of respect to be more important than what some might consider “good English grammar”. We also acknowledge that there have been harsh messages on both sides, including personal insults; this is also not in the spirit of mutual respect that the code of conduct suggests, the foundation for communications in this group. It doesn’t have to be this way. Like you wrote above, we can agree to live with our differences and respect them. Let’s stop this thread and continue in the spirit of the code of conduct. -- Ricardo GPG: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6 2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC https://elephly.net PS: If any of the participants feel that we have handled this case in an unsatisfactory manner, please write to the maintainers (Ludo and myself) off list.