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From: Alex Sassmannshausen <alex.sassmannshausen@gmail.com>
To: t_w_@freenet.de
Cc: Guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Patch submission should not imply agreement to policy (was Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 13:48:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <875zxi9t9p.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b8989549-5f26-f116-f0c9-970199a581b3@freenet.de>


Thanks for your answers.  I'm glad to hear that there might be room for
some form of dialogue on wording.

Cheers!

Alex

Thorsten Wilms writes:

> On 31/10/2018 09.58, Alex Sassmannshausen wrote:
>> Out of curiosity, would you personally feel better about the CoC if it
>> used terms such as "This community commits to" or "This community
>> pledges to" insteead of "We as contributors commit to"?
>
> In as far as contributing doesn't make one part of the community
> ... it would be a slight improvement. On the other hand, it's just
> vaguer about whom it puts words into their mouths.
>
>
>> I ask because one of the positives about the CC wording from my
>> perspective is that it specifically makes it a collective responsibility
>> to uphold certain norms, and not just the responsibility of the
>> "projec authorities".  It is understood that there are specific channels
>> for dealing with violations of those norms, but the community as a whole
>> stands behind that.
>
> Yeah, that's the positive reading. A negative is that it is an attempt
> to push people to declare a mixed bag as their own, with no voice in
> the process (other than take it or leave it). One that contains
> hard-to-argue-with aspects, but also questionable and vague parts.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-31 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-23 11:15 Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines? Mathieu Lirzin
2018-10-23 13:38 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2018-10-23 14:39   ` Mathieu Lirzin
2018-10-24  1:06 ` Alex Griffin
2018-10-24  3:02   ` Jack Hill
2018-10-24 10:02     ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-24 14:21       ` Alex Griffin
2018-10-26 21:36         ` Tonton
2018-10-26 22:37           ` Alex Griffin
2018-10-28 18:42             ` Tonton
2018-10-28 19:50               ` Alex Griffin
2018-10-28 20:25                 ` Alex Griffin
2018-10-28 21:12                 ` Thorsten Wilms
2018-10-28 21:26                 ` Alex Griffin
2018-10-29  8:59                 ` Björn Höfling
2018-10-29 10:49                   ` Thorsten Wilms
2018-10-29 13:43                     ` Alex Griffin
2018-10-29 17:48                     ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-10-30  7:48                       ` Patch submission should not imply agreement to policy (was Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?) Mark H Weaver
2018-10-30 13:28                         ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2018-10-30 19:39                           ` Thorsten Wilms
2018-10-31  8:58                             ` Alex Sassmannshausen
2018-10-31 12:17                               ` Thorsten Wilms
2018-10-31 12:48                                 ` Alex Sassmannshausen [this message]
2018-10-31 11:17                           ` Mark H Weaver
2018-11-01  3:47                             ` Mark H Weaver
2018-10-31 20:51                         ` Thorsten Wilms
2018-10-29 22:58                 ` Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines? Tonton
2018-10-29 18:16             ` Cook, Malcolm
2018-10-24 10:23 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-10-24 16:06   ` Mathieu Lirzin
2018-10-25 10:23   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2018-10-25 15:25     ` Mathieu Lirzin
2018-10-25 23:03     ` George Clemmer
2018-10-26  2:43       ` Gábor Boskovits
2018-10-26 21:25         ` Alex Griffin

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