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More specifically, we cannot guarantee that an off-line installation would work because it depends on the software and services you=E2=80=99ll choose. > This is fine except when user having either static-ip or using VM > which doesnt give readable network interface to the distro inside it > (falling into same category of static-ip). > > solving/giving: > > - Adding static IP and so as manually installing is not well > documented and need knowledge and skills (very faraway to be handled > by new users)check #47630 Right, this one=E2=80=99s already filed. > - Easiness of modifying things e.g instead of using tens of commands > it will be replaced with couple of clicks and for surely less typing=20 > (compare gparted vs parted steps or network-manager vs ip commands and > so on). You can checkout many distros whos giving this opportunity > like nixos, trisquel/triskel, mint...etc Did you try the graphical installation? https://guix.gnu.org/en/videos/system-graphical-installer/ It=E2=80=99s key strokes rather than clicks, but I think it addresses most = of the issues you describe. > - Give trial usage of the distro for the user before installing it Did you try the live VM image? https://guix.gnu.org/en/download/ I=E2=80=99m closing because I don=E2=80=99t see anything actionable. Pleas= e file issues focused on specific problems. Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.