From: Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@debian.org>
To: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>,
Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu>,
Jacob Hrbek <kreyren@rixotstudio.cz>,
Liliana Marie Prikler <liliana.prikler@gmail.com>
Cc: "guix-devel@gnu.org" <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Proposal: Build timers
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 12:23:08 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <875ysh5mmr.fsf@ponder> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86v90hu6wc.fsf@gmail.com>
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On 2021-11-24, zimoun wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 18:50, Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu> wrote:
>> Do we even care that much about accuracy? I don't really care that the
>> build takes 30 or 31 seconds, or even 1 minute, but I certainly care
>> whether it takes 30s or 3h. I think this is also what SBUs give you: a
>> rough estimate of which build is longer than the other. I think a
>> simple proportionality relation would work well enough in most common
>> cases. It might be quite off on a super computer, but who cares,
>> really?
>
> What if it takes 3h and the prediction says 2h?
Those sound about "the same" for any kind of reasonable expectation...
I would guess you only want the correct order of magnitude... hours,
minutes, days, weeks, months, years... or maybe quick, fast, slow,
painful.
I do this soft of fuzzy estimation all the time when working on
Reproducible Builds in Debian; look at the past test history to get a
*rough* estimate of how long I might expect a build to take. This helps
me decide if I should start a build and get a $COFFEE, do some
$SWORDFIGHTING on the $OFFICECHAIRS, or sit and watch the progress bar
so I don't loose the mental state working on the problem becuase it will
be done $SOON.
Make it clear it's an estimate, or maybe even abstract away the time
units so that there is no expectation of any particular time.
I know there are people who would love to get a a value that was
consistently right but to be *useful* it only needs an estimate to be
mostly not completely wrong. At least to me. :)
live well,
vagrant
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-24 20:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-22 22:02 Proposal: Build timers Jacob Hrbek
2021-11-23 1:06 ` zimoun
2021-11-23 6:21 ` Jacob Hrbek
2021-11-23 11:56 ` zimoun
2021-11-23 14:39 ` Jacob Hrbek
2021-11-24 11:35 ` zimoun
2021-11-25 4:00 ` Jacob Hrbek
2021-11-23 12:05 ` Julien Lepiller
2021-11-23 16:23 ` zimoun
2021-11-23 20:09 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-11-23 21:31 ` Jacob Hrbek
2021-11-23 21:35 ` Jacob Hrbek
2021-11-23 23:50 ` Julien Lepiller
2021-11-24 11:31 ` zimoun
2021-11-24 20:23 ` Vagrant Cascadian [this message]
2021-11-24 21:50 ` zimoun
2021-11-25 4:03 ` Jacob Hrbek
2021-11-25 5:21 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2021-11-25 10:23 ` zimoun
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