* glibc-locales
@ 2022-01-31 7:40 adriano
2022-01-31 8:46 ` glibc-locales Efraim Flashner
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: adriano @ 2022-01-31 7:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-guix
Running Guix the package manager on Ubuntu 21.10 for the first time
after some years
I installed glibc-locales according the the indications in
"Applications Setup" in the manual
BUT
runnig Emacs in the terminal and then quitting it, I get
~$ emacs
(process:55779): Gtk-WARNING **: 08:13:44.529: Locale not supported by
C library.
Using the fallback 'C' locale.
Gtk-Message: 08:13:44.641: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
Gtk-Message: 08:13:44.642: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
We'll get to the canberra thing later
As for the C locale, what's wrong with that ?
~$ ls .guix-profile/lib/locale/2.33/
aa_DJ ca_ES@euro eo gd_GB.utf8
mi_NZ.UTF-8 so_SO.utf8
aa_DJ.utf8 ca_ES.utf8 es_AR gd_GB.UTF-8
miq_NI so_SO.UTF-8
aa_DJ.UTF-8 ca_ES.UTF-8 es_AR.utf8 gez_ER
mjw_IN sq_AL
aa_ER ca_ES@valencia es_AR.UTF-8 gez_ER@abegede
mk_MK sq_AL.utf8
aa_ER@saaho ca_FR es_BO gez_ET
mk_MK.utf8 sq_AL.UTF-8
aa_ET ca_FR.utf8 es_BO.utf8 gez_ET@abegede
mk_MK.UTF-8 sq_MK
af_ZA ca_FR.UTF-8 es_BO.UTF-8 gl_ES
ml_IN sr_ME
af_ZA.utf8 ca_IT es_CL gl_ES@euro
mni_IN sr_RS
af_ZA.UTF-8 ca_IT.utf8 es_CL.utf8 gl_ES.utf8
mn_MN sr_RS@latin
agr_PE ca_IT.UTF-8 es_CL.UTF-8 gl_ES.UTF-8
mnw_MM ss_ZA
ak_GH ce_RU es_CO gu_IN
mr_IN st_ZA
am_ET chr_US es_CO.utf8 gv_GB
ms_MY st_ZA.utf8
an_ES ckb_IQ es_CO.UTF-8 gv_GB.utf8
ms_MY.utf8 st_ZA.UTF-8
an_ES.utf8 cmn_TW es_CR gv_GB.UTF-8
ms_MY.UTF-8 sv_FI
an_ES.UTF-8 crh_UA es_CR.utf8 hak_TW
mt_MT sv_FI@euro
anp_IN csb_PL es_CR.UTF-8 ha_NG
mt_MT.utf8 sv_FI.utf8
ar_AE cs_CZ es_CU he_IL
mt_MT.UTF-8 sv_FI.UTF-8
ar_AE.utf8 cs_CZ.utf8 es_DO he_IL.utf8
my_MM sv_SE
ar_AE.UTF-8 cs_CZ.UTF-8 es_DO.utf8 he_IL.UTF-8
nan_TW sv_SE.utf8
ar_BH cv_RU es_DO.UTF-8 hif_FJ
nan_TW@latin sv_SE.UTF-8
ar_BH.utf8 cy_GB es_EC hi_IN
nb_NO sw_KE
ar_BH.UTF-8 cy_GB.utf8 es_EC.utf8 hne_IN
nb_NO.utf8 sw_TZ
ar_DZ cy_GB.UTF-8 es_EC.UTF-8 hr_HR
nb_NO.UTF-8 szl_PL
ar_DZ.utf8 da_DK es_ES hr_HR.utf8
nds_DE ta_IN
ar_DZ.UTF-8 da_DK.utf8 es_ES@euro hr_HR.UTF-8
nds_NL ta_LK
ar_EG da_DK.UTF-8 es_ES.utf8 hsb_DE
ne_NP tcy_IN.utf8
ar_EG.utf8 de_AT es_ES.UTF-8 hsb_DE.utf8
nhn_MX tcy_IN.UTF-8
ar_EG.UTF-8 de_AT@euro es_GT hsb_DE.UTF-8
niu_NU te_IN
ar_IN de_AT.utf8 es_GT.utf8 ht_HT
niu_NZ tg_TJ
ar_IQ de_AT.UTF-8 es_GT.UTF-8 hu_HU
nl_AW tg_TJ.utf8
ar_IQ.utf8 de_BE es_HN hu_HU.utf8
nl_BE tg_TJ.UTF-8
ar_IQ.UTF-8 de_BE@euro es_HN.utf8 hu_HU.UTF-8
nl_BE@euro the_NP
ar_JO de_BE.utf8 es_HN.UTF-8 hy_AM
nl_BE.utf8 th_TH
ar_JO.utf8 de_BE.UTF-8 es_MX hy_AM.armscii8
nl_BE.UTF-8 th_TH.utf8
ar_JO.UTF-8 de_CH es_MX.utf8 hy_AM.ARMSCII-8
nl_NL th_TH.UTF-8
ar_KW de_CH.utf8 es_MX.UTF-8 ia_FR
nl_NL@euro ti_ER
ar_KW.utf8 de_CH.UTF-8 es_NI id_ID
nl_NL.utf8 ti_ET
ar_KW.UTF-8 de_DE es_NI.utf8 id_ID.utf8
nl_NL.UTF-8 tig_ER
ar_LB de_DE@euro es_NI.UTF-8 id_ID.UTF-8
nn_NO tk_TM
ar_LB.utf8 de_DE.utf8 es_PA ig_NG
nn_NO.utf8 tl_PH
ar_LB.UTF-8 de_DE.UTF-8 es_PA.utf8 ik_CA
nn_NO.UTF-8 tl_PH.utf8
ar_LY de_IT es_PA.UTF-8 is_IS
nr_ZA tl_PH.UTF-8
ar_LY.utf8 de_IT.utf8 es_PE is_IS.utf8
nso_ZA tn_ZA
ar_LY.UTF-8 de_IT.UTF-8 es_PE.utf8 is_IS.UTF-8
oc_FR to_TO
ar_MA de_LI.utf8 es_PE.UTF-8 it_CH
oc_FR.utf8 tpi_PG
ar_MA.utf8 de_LI.UTF-8 es_PR it_CH.utf8
oc_FR.UTF-8 tr_CY
ar_MA.UTF-8 de_LU es_PR.utf8 it_CH.UTF-8
om_ET tr_CY.utf8
ar_OM de_LU@euro es_PR.UTF-8 it_IT
om_KE tr_CY.UTF-8
ar_OM.utf8 de_LU.utf8 es_PY it_IT@euro
om_KE.utf8 tr_TR
ar_OM.UTF-8 de_LU.UTF-8 es_PY.utf8 it_IT.utf8
om_KE.UTF-8 tr_TR.utf8
ar_QA doi_IN es_PY.UTF-8 it_IT.UTF-8
or_IN tr_TR.UTF-8
ar_QA.utf8 dsb_DE es_SV iu_CA
os_RU ts_ZA
ar_QA.UTF-8 dv_MV es_SV.utf8 ja_JP.eucjp
pa_IN tt_RU
ar_SA dz_BT es_SV.UTF-8 ja_JP.EUC-JP
pap_AW tt_RU@iqtelif
ar_SA.utf8 el_CY es_US ja_JP.utf8
pap_CW ug_CN
ar_SA.UTF-8 el_CY.utf8 es_US.utf8 ja_JP.UTF-8
pa_PK uk_UA
ar_SD el_CY.UTF-8 es_US.UTF-8 kab_DZ
pl_PL uk_UA.utf8
ar_SD.utf8 el_GR es_UY ka_GE
pl_PL.utf8 uk_UA.UTF-8
ar_SD.UTF-8 el_GR@euro es_UY.utf8 ka_GE.utf8
pl_PL.UTF-8 unm_US
ar_SS el_GR.utf8 es_UY.UTF-8 ka_GE.UTF-8
ps_AF ur_IN
ar_SY el_GR.UTF-8 es_VE kk_KZ
pt_BR ur_PK
ar_SY.utf8 en_AG es_VE.utf8 kk_KZ.utf8
pt_BR.utf8 uz_UZ
ar_SY.UTF-8 en_AU es_VE.UTF-8 kk_KZ.UTF-8
pt_BR.UTF-8 uz_UZ@cyrillic
ar_TN en_AU.utf8 et_EE kl_GL
pt_PT uz_UZ.utf8
ar_TN.utf8 en_AU.UTF-8 et_EE.iso885915 kl_GL.utf8
pt_PT@euro uz_UZ.UTF-8
ar_TN.UTF-8 en_BW et_EE.ISO-8859-15 kl_GL.UTF-8
pt_PT.utf8 ve_ZA
ar_YE en_BW.utf8 et_EE.utf8 km_KH
pt_PT.UTF-8 vi_VN
ar_YE.utf8 en_BW.UTF-8 et_EE.UTF-8 kn_IN
quz_PE wa_BE
ar_YE.UTF-8 en_CA eu_ES kok_IN
raj_IN wa_BE@euro
as_IN en_CA.utf8 eu_ES@euro ko_KR.euckr
ro_RO wa_BE.utf8
ast_ES en_CA.UTF-8 eu_ES.utf8 ko_KR.EUC-KR
ro_RO.utf8 wa_BE.UTF-8
ast_ES.utf8 en_DK eu_ES.UTF-8 ko_KR.utf8
ro_RO.UTF-8 wae_CH
ast_ES.UTF-8 en_DK.utf8 fa_IR ko_KR.UTF-8
ru_RU wal_ET
ayc_PE en_DK.UTF-8 ff_SN ks_IN
ru_RU.KOI8-R wo_SN
az_AZ en_GB fi_FI ks_IN@devanagari
ru_RU.koi8r xh_ZA
az_IR en_GB.utf8 fi_FI@euro ku_TR
ru_RU.utf8 xh_ZA.utf8
be_BY en_GB.UTF-8 fi_FI.utf8 ku_TR.utf8
ru_RU.UTF-8 xh_ZA.UTF-8
be_BY@latin en_HK fi_FI.UTF-8 ku_TR.UTF-8
ru_UA yi_US
be_BY.utf8 en_HK.utf8 fil_PH kw_GB
ru_UA.utf8 yi_US.utf8
be_BY.UTF-8 en_HK.UTF-8 fo_FO kw_GB.utf8
ru_UA.UTF-8 yi_US.UTF-8
bem_ZM en_IE fo_FO.utf8 kw_GB.UTF-8
rw_RW yo_NG
ber_DZ en_IE@euro fo_FO.UTF-8 ky_KG
sah_RU yue_HK
ber_MA en_IE.utf8 fr_BE lb_LU
sa_IN yuw_PG
bg_BG en_IE.UTF-8 fr_BE@euro lg_UG
sat_IN zh_CN
bg_BG.utf8 en_IL fr_BE.utf8 lg_UG.utf8
sc_IT zh_CN.gb18030
bg_BG.UTF-8 en_IN fr_BE.UTF-8 lg_UG.UTF-8
sd_IN zh_CN.GB18030
bhb_IN.utf8 en_NG fr_CA li_BE
sd_IN@devanagari zh_CN.gbk
bhb_IN.UTF-8 en_NZ fr_CA.utf8 lij_IT
se_NO zh_CN.GBK
bho_IN en_NZ.utf8 fr_CA.UTF-8 li_NL
sgs_LT zh_CN.utf8
bho_NP en_NZ.UTF-8 fr_CH ln_CD
shn_MM zh_CN.UTF-8
bi_VU en_PH fr_CH.utf8 lo_LA
shs_CA zh_HK
bn_BD en_PH.utf8 fr_CH.UTF-8 lt_LT
sid_ET zh_HK.utf8
bn_IN en_PH.UTF-8 fr_FR lt_LT.utf8
si_LK zh_HK.UTF-8
bo_CN en_SC.utf8 fr_FR@euro lt_LT.UTF-8
sk_SK zh_SG
bo_IN en_SC.UTF-8 fr_FR.utf8 lv_LV
sk_SK.utf8 zh_SG.gbk
br_FR en_SG fr_FR.UTF-8 lv_LV.utf8
sk_SK.UTF-8 zh_SG.GBK
br_FR@euro en_SG.utf8 fr_LU lv_LV.UTF-8
sl_SI zh_SG.utf8
br_FR.utf8 en_SG.UTF-8 fr_LU@euro lzh_TW
sl_SI.utf8 zh_SG.UTF-8
br_FR.UTF-8 en_US fr_LU.utf8 mag_IN
sl_SI.UTF-8 zh_TW
brx_IN en_US.utf8 fr_LU.UTF-8 mai_IN
sm_WS zh_TW.euctw
bs_BA en_US.UTF-8 fur_IT mai_NP
so_DJ zh_TW.EUC-TW
bs_BA.utf8 en_ZA fy_DE mfe_MU
so_DJ.utf8 zh_TW.utf8
bs_BA.UTF-8 en_ZA.utf8 fy_NL mg_MG
so_DJ.UTF-8 zh_TW.UTF-8
byn_ER en_ZA.UTF-8 ga_IE mg_MG.utf8
so_ET zu_ZA
ca_AD en_ZM ga_IE@euro mg_MG.UTF-8
so_KE zu_ZA.utf8
ca_AD.utf8 en_ZW ga_IE.utf8 mhr_RU
so_KE.utf8 zu_ZA.UTF-8
ca_AD.UTF-8 en_ZW.utf8 ga_IE.UTF-8 mi_NZ
so_KE.UTF-8
ca_ES en_ZW.UTF-8 gd_GB mi_NZ.utf8
so_SO
Thanks
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* Re: glibc-locales
2022-01-31 7:40 glibc-locales adriano
@ 2022-01-31 8:46 ` Efraim Flashner
2022-01-31 18:03 ` glibc-locales Vagrant Cascadian
2022-01-31 18:37 ` glibc-locales adriano
0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Efraim Flashner @ 2022-01-31 8:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: adriano; +Cc: help-guix
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On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 08:40:27AM +0100, adriano wrote:
> Running Guix the package manager on Ubuntu 21.10 for the first time
> after some years
>
> I installed glibc-locales according the the indications in
> "Applications Setup" in the manual
>
> BUT
>
> runnig Emacs in the terminal and then quitting it, I get
>
> ~$ emacs
>
> (process:55779): Gtk-WARNING **: 08:13:44.529: Locale not supported by
> C library.
> Using the fallback 'C' locale.
> Gtk-Message: 08:13:44.641: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> Gtk-Message: 08:13:44.642: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
>
>
> We'll get to the canberra thing later
>
> As for the C locale, what's wrong with that ?
>
> Thanks
'C' isn't actually a locale in glibc but is something added by Debian.
You'll want to try one of the other locales while running programs from
Guix. You can set it with 'LOCALE=EN_US.UTF-8 emacs' and it'll only take
effect for that command.
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* Re: glibc-locales
2022-01-31 8:46 ` glibc-locales Efraim Flashner
@ 2022-01-31 18:03 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-01-31 18:37 ` glibc-locales adriano
1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Vagrant Cascadian @ 2022-01-31 18:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Efraim Flashner, adriano; +Cc: help-guix
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On 2022-01-31, Efraim Flashner wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 08:40:27AM +0100, adriano wrote:
>> Running Guix the package manager on Ubuntu 21.10 for the first time
>> after some years
>>
>> I installed glibc-locales according the the indications in
>> "Applications Setup" in the manual
>>
>> BUT
>>
>> runnig Emacs in the terminal and then quitting it, I get
>>
>> ~$ emacs
>>
>> (process:55779): Gtk-WARNING **: 08:13:44.529: Locale not supported by
>> C library.
>> Using the fallback 'C' locale.
>> Gtk-Message: 08:13:44.641: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
>> Gtk-Message: 08:13:44.642: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
>>
>>
>> We'll get to the canberra thing later
>>
>> As for the C locale, what's wrong with that ?
> 'C' isn't actually a locale in glibc but is something added by Debian.
'C' is definitely a default locale in glibc, but 'C.UTF-8' is added by
various distros. Ubuntu might only support UTF-8 locales...
> You'll want to try one of the other locales while running programs from
> Guix. You can set it with 'LOCALE=EN_US.UTF-8 emacs' and it'll only take
> effect for that command.
But yeah, you want a UTF-8 locale, at least; there is not "generic"
upstream UTF-8 locale, and guix just uses the upstream locales from
glibc.
live well,
vagrant
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* Re: glibc-locales
2022-01-31 8:46 ` glibc-locales Efraim Flashner
2022-01-31 18:03 ` glibc-locales Vagrant Cascadian
@ 2022-01-31 18:37 ` adriano
2022-01-31 20:02 ` glibc-locales Vagrant Cascadian
1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: adriano @ 2022-01-31 18:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Efraim Flashner; +Cc: help-guix
Il giorno lun, 31/01/2022 alle 10.46 +0200, Efraim Flashner ha scritto:
>
> 'C' isn't actually a locale in glibc but is something added by
> Debian.
> You'll want to try one of the other locales while running programs
> from
> Guix. You can set it with 'LOCALE=EN_US.UTF-8 emacs' and it'll only
> take
> effect for that command.
>
Thank you Efraim, but
~$ LOCALE=EN_US.UTF-8 emacs
(process:23652): Gtk-WARNING **: 19:36:00.473: Locale not supported by
C library.
Using the fallback 'C' locale.
Gtk-Message: 19:36:00.530: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
Gtk-Message: 19:36:00.530: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
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* Re: glibc-locales
2022-01-31 18:37 ` glibc-locales adriano
@ 2022-01-31 20:02 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-01-31 20:37 ` glibc-locales adriano
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Vagrant Cascadian @ 2022-01-31 20:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: adriano, Efraim Flashner; +Cc: help-guix
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On 2022-01-31, adriano wrote:
> Il giorno lun, 31/01/2022 alle 10.46 +0200, Efraim Flashner ha scritto:
>>
>> 'C' isn't actually a locale in glibc but is something added by
>> Debian.
>> You'll want to try one of the other locales while running programs
>> from
>> Guix. You can set it with 'LOCALE=EN_US.UTF-8 emacs' and it'll only
>> take
>> effect for that command.
>>
>
>
> Thank you Efraim, but
>
> ~$ LOCALE=EN_US.UTF-8 emacs
>
> (process:23652): Gtk-WARNING **: 19:36:00.473: Locale not supported by
> C library.
> Using the fallback 'C' locale.
> Gtk-Message: 19:36:00.530: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> Gtk-Message: 19:36:00.530: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
LANG=en_US.UTF-8 and/or LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
live well,
vagrant
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* Re: glibc-locales
2022-01-31 20:02 ` glibc-locales Vagrant Cascadian
@ 2022-01-31 20:37 ` adriano
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: adriano @ 2022-01-31 20:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vagrant Cascadian, Efraim Flashner; +Cc: help-guix
Il giorno lun, 31/01/2022 alle 12.02 -0800, Vagrant Cascadian ha
scritto:
> >
> >
> >
> LANG=en_US.UTF-8 and/or LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
>
> live well,
> vagrant
Thank you again
This time it's slightly different, there's a warning
~$ LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 emacs
/gnu/store/pwcp239kjf7lnj5i4lkdzcfcxwcfyk72-bash-minimal-
5.0.16/bin/bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale
(en_US.UTF-8)
(process:26785): Gtk-WARNING **: 21:35:02.278: Locale not supported by
C library.
Using the fallback 'C' locale.
...
~$ LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 emacs
/gnu/store/pwcp239kjf7lnj5i4lkdzcfcxwcfyk72-bash-minimal-
5.0.16/bin/bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale
(en_US.UTF-8)
(process:26795): Gtk-WARNING **: 21:35:39.110: Locale not supported by
C library.
Using the fallback 'C' locale.
Gtk-Message: 21:35:39.165: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
Gtk-Message: 21:35:39.166: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
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* glibc-locales
@ 2022-07-03 8:53 Efraim Flashner
2022-07-03 9:53 ` glibc-locales Efraim Flashner
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Efraim Flashner @ 2022-07-03 8:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: guix-devel
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The package glibc-locales and glibc-locales-2.32 are nearly identical
according to diffoscope.
(ins)efraim@3900XT ~$ guix shell diffoscope -- diffoscope /gnu/store/ixzmi6614baf4w37qfjgqrv8hwsl8jcv-glibc-locales-2.33 /gnu/store/zrq9pr31wl128y6nwyh2022i9jqxazpz-glibc-locales-2.32-2.32
--- /gnu/store/ixzmi6614baf4w37qfjgqrv8hwsl8jcv-glibc-locales-2.33
+++ /gnu/store/zrq9pr31wl128y6nwyh2022i9jqxazpz-glibc-locales-2.32-2.32
│ --- /gnu/store/ixzmi6614baf4w37qfjgqrv8hwsl8jcv-glibc-locales-2.33/lib
├── +++ /gnu/store/zrq9pr31wl128y6nwyh2022i9jqxazpz-glibc-locales-2.32-2.32/lib
│ │ --- /gnu/store/ixzmi6614baf4w37qfjgqrv8hwsl8jcv-glibc-locales-2.33/lib/locale
│ ├── +++ /gnu/store/zrq9pr31wl128y6nwyh2022i9jqxazpz-glibc-locales-2.32-2.32/lib/locale
│ │ ├── file list
│ │ │ @@ -1 +1 @@
│ │ │ -2.33
│ │ │ +2.32
│ --- /gnu/store/ixzmi6614baf4w37qfjgqrv8hwsl8jcv-glibc-locales-2.33/share
├── +++ /gnu/store/zrq9pr31wl128y6nwyh2022i9jqxazpz-glibc-locales-2.32-2.32/share
│ │ --- /gnu/store/ixzmi6614baf4w37qfjgqrv8hwsl8jcv-glibc-locales-2.33/share/doc
│ ├── +++ /gnu/store/zrq9pr31wl128y6nwyh2022i9jqxazpz-glibc-locales-2.32-2.32/share/doc
│ │ ├── file list
│ │ │ @@ -1 +1 @@
│ │ │ -glibc-locales-2.33
│ │ │ +glibc-locales-2.32-2.32
│ │ ├── /gnu/store/8fpk2cja3f07xls48jfnpgrzrljpqivr-coreutils-8.32/bin/stat {}
│ │ │ @@ -1,8 +1,8 @@
│ │ │
│ │ │ - Size: 36 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 4096 directory
│ │ │ + Size: 46 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 4096 directory
│ │ │ Links: 1
│ │ │ Access: (0555/dr-xr-xr-x) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root)
│ │ │
│ │ │ Modify: 1970-01-01 00:00:01.000000000 +0000
│ │ ├── /gnu/store/8fpk2cja3f07xls48jfnpgrzrljpqivr-coreutils-8.32/bin/stat {}
│ │ │ @@ -1,8 +1,8 @@
│ │ │
│ │ │ + Size: 46 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 4096 directory
│ │ │ - Size: 36 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 4096 directory
│ │ │ Links: 1
│ │ │ Access: (0555/dr-xr-xr-x) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root)
│ │ │
│ │ │ Modify: 1970-01-01 00:00:01.000000000 +0000
So while it would be nice to build glibc-locales-2.32 with glibc-2.33 I
don't think it's actually in use anywhere since IIRC we jumped from 2.31
to 2.33.
Also, for 2.33 I'd like to build it with glibc-final. glibc-locales
doesn't retain a reference to any packages and it would reduce an
instance of using an "extra" glibc when there's already one in the build
environment.
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2022-07-03 8:53 glibc-locales Efraim Flashner
@ 2022-07-03 9:53 ` Efraim Flashner
2022-07-03 11:35 ` glibc-locales Andreas Enge
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From: Efraim Flashner @ 2022-07-03 9:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: guix-devel
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On Sun, Jul 03, 2022 at 11:53:45AM +0300, Efraim Flashner wrote:
> The package glibc-locales and glibc-locales-2.32 are nearly identical
> according to diffoscope.
>
> (ins)efraim@3900XT ~$ guix shell diffoscope -- diffoscope /gnu/store/ixzmi6614baf4w37qfjgqrv8hwsl8jcv-glibc-locales-2.33 /gnu/store/zrq9pr31wl128y6nwyh2022i9jqxazpz-glibc-locales-2.32-2.32
> --- /gnu/store/ixzmi6614baf4w37qfjgqrv8hwsl8jcv-glibc-locales-2.33
> +++ /gnu/store/zrq9pr31wl128y6nwyh2022i9jqxazpz-glibc-locales-2.32-2.32
> │ --- /gnu/store/ixzmi6614baf4w37qfjgqrv8hwsl8jcv-glibc-locales-2.33/lib
> ├── +++ /gnu/store/zrq9pr31wl128y6nwyh2022i9jqxazpz-glibc-locales-2.32-2.32/lib
> │ │ --- /gnu/store/ixzmi6614baf4w37qfjgqrv8hwsl8jcv-glibc-locales-2.33/lib/locale
> │ ├── +++ /gnu/store/zrq9pr31wl128y6nwyh2022i9jqxazpz-glibc-locales-2.32-2.32/lib/locale
> │ │ ├── file list
> │ │ │ @@ -1 +1 @@
> │ │ │ -2.33
> │ │ │ +2.32
> │ --- /gnu/store/ixzmi6614baf4w37qfjgqrv8hwsl8jcv-glibc-locales-2.33/share
> ├── +++ /gnu/store/zrq9pr31wl128y6nwyh2022i9jqxazpz-glibc-locales-2.32-2.32/share
> │ │ --- /gnu/store/ixzmi6614baf4w37qfjgqrv8hwsl8jcv-glibc-locales-2.33/share/doc
> │ ├── +++ /gnu/store/zrq9pr31wl128y6nwyh2022i9jqxazpz-glibc-locales-2.32-2.32/share/doc
> │ │ ├── file list
> │ │ │ @@ -1 +1 @@
> │ │ │ -glibc-locales-2.33
> │ │ │ +glibc-locales-2.32-2.32
> │ │ ├── /gnu/store/8fpk2cja3f07xls48jfnpgrzrljpqivr-coreutils-8.32/bin/stat {}
> │ │ │ @@ -1,8 +1,8 @@
> │ │ │
> │ │ │ - Size: 36 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 4096 directory
> │ │ │ + Size: 46 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 4096 directory
> │ │ │ Links: 1
> │ │ │ Access: (0555/dr-xr-xr-x) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root)
> │ │ │
> │ │ │ Modify: 1970-01-01 00:00:01.000000000 +0000
> │ │ ├── /gnu/store/8fpk2cja3f07xls48jfnpgrzrljpqivr-coreutils-8.32/bin/stat {}
> │ │ │ @@ -1,8 +1,8 @@
> │ │ │
> │ │ │ + Size: 46 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 4096 directory
> │ │ │ - Size: 36 Blocks: 0 IO Block: 4096 directory
> │ │ │ Links: 1
> │ │ │ Access: (0555/dr-xr-xr-x) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root)
> │ │ │
> │ │ │ Modify: 1970-01-01 00:00:01.000000000 +0000
>
>
> So while it would be nice to build glibc-locales-2.32 with glibc-2.33 I
> don't think it's actually in use anywhere since IIRC we jumped from 2.31
> to 2.33.
>
> Also, for 2.33 I'd like to build it with glibc-final. glibc-locales
> doesn't retain a reference to any packages and it would reduce an
> instance of using an "extra" glibc when there's already one in the build
> environment.
I misread the source. I'd like glibc-utf8-locales built with glibc-final.
glibc-locales actually rebuilds the sources with an extra patch. I
suppose another option would be to use glibc-locales to build
glibc-utf8-locales.
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2022-07-03 9:53 ` glibc-locales Efraim Flashner
@ 2022-07-03 11:35 ` Andreas Enge
2022-07-03 14:36 ` glibc-locales Vagrant Cascadian
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From: Andreas Enge @ 2022-07-03 11:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: guix-devel
Am Sun, Jul 03, 2022 at 12:53:09PM +0300 schrieb Efraim Flashner:
> I misread the source. I'd like glibc-utf8-locales built with glibc-final.
Has glibc-utf8-locales not been removed some time ago? I always had it in
my profile, then saw a message during upgrade that it had been removed,
and dropped it from my profile (without any apparent harm to my GNU system).
Andreas
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* Re: glibc-locales
2022-07-03 11:35 ` glibc-locales Andreas Enge
@ 2022-07-03 14:36 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-07-03 14:41 ` glibc-locales Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Vagrant Cascadian @ 2022-07-03 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: guix-devel; +Cc: Andreas Enge, Efraim Flashner
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On 2022-07-03, Andreas Enge wrote:
> Am Sun, Jul 03, 2022 at 12:53:09PM +0300 schrieb Efraim Flashner:
>> I misread the source. I'd like glibc-utf8-locales built with glibc-final.
>
> Has glibc-utf8-locales not been removed some time ago? I always had it in
> my profile, then saw a message during upgrade that it had been removed,
> and dropped it from my profile (without any apparent harm to my GNU system).
Still is there as a hidden package and used as an input for some
packages, though this brings up another locales-related question...
Before glibc-utf8-locales was a hidden package, I preferred using that
because it only included a small subset of locales, and happened to
include the main one I needed (lucky me!).
How feasible would it be to make each locale it's own output on
glibc-locales (e.g. glibc-locales:en_US.utf8, or maybe cluster languages
together, e.g. glibc-locales:en) ? Most people probably only use a
relatively small number of locales on any given system... though which
locales any given person uses probably varies.
Is it a complexity vs. space-savings issue? Would it be tricky to
compose multiple locales packages into a single profile? Just not worth
the effort?
live well,
vagrant
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