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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1665607313; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=sM6svw0R38JCZaAtY4Vz6dJbuNBDrfZd6ng7exwmKjM=; b=Rygg5NlUznqlB1SXtp6gkWBSVTKv0xAi3i46oiNduwbhDx7iD9YjCQip+uulpMUFL9t2jP qR0GuHcmvnTF1mIDZd7JlolUzqqXfIP0EQTFaA4ui7x5ZeWXyB83cUD69MI9KPNn8lyaOX /2ERVMOlz8rdDc6D75l8kABm3QdxdycKWz9Yv/dnacoLTuldhb7RJ6F49rWCF4aAQObyYO joc+XLT9PeSaYoZGRe2rbSq9sS1r0QtS4bTFi3PNmSd/nuSrCYfcTibwC4wtsp+A0Jw5PU sEWo9vX0bNoKn6NTrJ1SYSdv4tQNrYCYa1S4zcx9bWNy417T9auTs0QrcidIAg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1665607313; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=nHtvOHxdQsjzclkGWpCUz/47a70uEclYvxLLoqeOmTFc3kdP+9/78vw4E+vdZXezsIOuYS Dp3LN4i6yDCgyhpaJwPwpnrbyLoH+uIZEfp+Sgxo+AXbjJY7tDiaaQSaW9BlZd+DyK80vz XVLU77d5e69nSW4yxayhVue+E4hzqJ/ceeTbAIzy6qvtfysTJqd/E9yM5+yRt/6mKOWfCo sPE2wM8XEscQ7QtuVmBGwF5aef68/BuO9vAToHVX5zs7W71FzylerC0/PjdlOgBbLJrzNh hkmwkmNIQRBvbLg+Ff8r2YfCUVuI+3H7Ly3m/GIvAV0kzBBwF6WMTaOxOKjWAQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=debian.org header.s=1.vagrant.user header.b=cSm58g4J; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.50 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=debian.org header.s=1.vagrant.user header.b=cSm58g4J; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 21A172C5B5 X-Spam-Score: -5.50 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: wBYmXExBZ2fz --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2022-10-07, Efraim Flashner wrote: > On Thu, Oct 06, 2022 at 04:50:22PM +0200, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > Firstly, I'd like to mention that we, in general, have a minimum system > requirement of 2GB of RAM, and IIRC there aren't a lot of armhf boards > out there which have that much. We do have a difference between building > natively and cross building / building with '--target'. > > I'd like to comment on armhf for a moment. My memory is a but rusty, but > I'm pretty sure that in December of 2021 mesa was bumped from 21.2.x to > 21.3.x, and at that time it stopped building on/for armhf. I noticed in > May of 2022 (5 months later) and got the build working again. That we > went 5 months without anyone saying anything in bug reports that mesa > wasn't building shows that either everyone who is using it is using > software that doesn't use mesa, or we really don't have any armhf-linux > users. I'm not advocating dropping the architecture, but it does feel > like we're already at a best-effort level with it. As far as the pieces > needed for bootstrapping aarch64 software (go and probably others), > those get built anyway as needed by aarch64, so there's no worry about > losing support for those software bits. FWIW, on Debian guix 1.3.0 is currently at risk due to armhf and i386/i686-linux missings builds due to test suite failures. It has been hard to keep up with Guix in Debian, especially supporting "obscure" platforms... Though I'm guessing there may be reluctance to drop support for i686-linux... I much more frequently encounter test suite failures when building it, at least on Debian. It is surely less well supported than x86_64-linux. But dropping armhf and i386 at the moment looks ... helpful from a Debian packaging perspective... :/ I'll try to package a git snapshot of guix and see if that fares any better and hopefully find and fix issues before the next guix release! live well, vagrant --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYKAB0WIQRlgHNhO/zFx+LkXUXcUY/If5cWqgUCY0cmNgAKCRDcUY/If5cW qvd2AQCEwmB1GfoLOE05F9Ic86XWBd8k6y/YAd6ox1ZP5UtmeQEAmvVEnG+lNHy2 M5DpR/2GBEIoWzLGxMTJfFG4hY1GEAk= =BgEr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--