From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: 30948@debbugs.gnu.org, Carlo Zancanaro <carlo@zancanaro.id.au>
Subject: bug#30948: [PATCH core-updates] guix: Reap finished child processes in build containers.
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2022 21:07:47 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <875yeysebw.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lenvce8r.fsf@gnu.org> ("Ludovic Courtès"'s message of "Mon, 28 Nov 2022 16:04:04 +0100")
Hi,
Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
> Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> skribis:
>
>> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>>> If I write:
>>>
>>> (gexp->derivation "foo" #~(mkdir #$output))
>>>
>>> I can be sure that my derivation depends on nothing but (default-guile).
>>> This is important for tests, but also to make sure we can use this
>>> primitive everywhere—if it pulled in the Shepherd, I wouldn’t be able to
>>> use to build glibc, because there’d be a cycle.
>>
>> I was not suggesting to pull in extra dependencies such as Shepherd, but
>> to weave the to-be-added signal handling logic at a much lower level.
>> One idea could be to arrange so that the correct signal handlers always
>> get installed for any Guile code running in the build side (I'm not sure
>> how, but perhaps by adjusting the gexp "compiler"?).
>>
>> The handlers could be defined in (guix build signal-handling) or
>> similar. Users wouldn't need to explicitly import the module and
>> install its signal handlers, that'd be taken care of automatically, all
>> the time.
>>
>> Does that sound feasible?
>
> Not like this: the imported-modules derivation for (guix build
> signal-handling) would be a dependency in themselves.
I see a couple of options for the lowest place to inject the minimal
signal handling of a PID.
1. In Guile itself. We could make it detect when it's running as PID 1
and then set up the required signal handling. This is apparently what
Bash does, a peculiarity exploited by NixOS (they launch their builder
scripts via Bash, which is PID 1 and takes care of reaping the dead
processes)
2. In a Guile wrapper. Instead of running Guile directly in the
container, guix-daemon would run it through a wrapper that acts as PID 1.
This would make it a tool comparable to dumb-init [0] or tini [1],
except written in Scheme.
[0] https://github.com/Yelp/dumb-init/
[1] https://github.com/krallin/tini
If we implement 1, it'd make Guile potentially useful as a wrapper
itself to launch scripts in containerized environment (the same as
tini), and it alleviates any integration overhead for us, so I find it
attractive.
What do you think?
For further reading, see [2], which I found interesting.
[2] https://medium.com/hackernoon/my-process-became-pid-1-and-now-signals-behave-strangely-b05c52cc551c
--
Thanks,
Maxim
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-29 2:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-03-26 11:16 [bug#30948] [PATCH core-updates] guix: Reap finished child processes in build containers Carlo Zancanaro
2018-03-26 23:39 ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-03-29 20:07 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-03-29 21:15 ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-03-30 8:16 ` Ludovic Courtès
2018-03-30 11:17 ` Carlo Zancanaro
2018-03-30 15:17 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-11-24 16:40 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-24 16:44 ` bug#30948: " Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-26 15:11 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-11-27 3:00 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-28 15:04 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-11-28 20:10 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-11-29 2:07 ` Maxim Cournoyer [this message]
2023-12-17 20:23 ` bug#30948: [PATCH core-updates] build-system/gnu: Turn PID 1 into an “init”-style process by default Ludovic Courtès
2023-12-17 21:46 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-12-18 17:46 ` bug#30948: [PATCH core-updates] guix: Reap finished child processes in build containers Ludovic Courtès
2023-12-30 3:36 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-12-19 22:56 ` Ludovic Courtès
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