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Roesch" > I am also a plain old researcher in neuroscience, albeit with > formal training in software engineering. Just out of curiousity, do you know of other neuroscientists using Guix or are you one of the few? I also work with neuroscientists and have been telling them about Guix for a couple of years now, but I have not yet been able to convince any to even try it. They often complain about problems they have, like struggling to package polyglot software, that Guix could solve for them, but seem reluctant, perhaps because of fear of lisp or not being able to run natively on their operating system or because it is so different than what they know. > As such I think I would find it > more valuable to spend time figuring out the best way to > describe "a best > practice" for people like me, onboarding newcomers, and write > documentation, rather than figuring out why a Makefile doesn't > compile and > computer says no. Such a "best practice" would be very valuable and I would be interested in helping if possible.