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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -7.14 X-Spam-Score: -7.14 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 6C5465EA3E X-TUID: KDZxudCBPSbe Maxim Cournoyer writes: > All in all, I guess my position is unchanged: despite the potential for > surprises, automating and enforcing these configs provide benefits that > outweigh the cons, in my experience/opinion. I concur. In light of efforts to reduce cognitive overhead, I think it is a good idea to automatically use the default configuration. Contributors can opt out, but I prefer not to have to think about yet another important piece of configuration here. -- Ricardo