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emacs 30.0.50 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 17:58:58 +0200 Message-ID: <875xt2wv25.fsf@icepic.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Authenticated-Id: dev@icepic.de Received-SPF: pass client-ip=136.175.108.126; envelope-from=dev@icepic.de; helo=mail-108-mta126.mxroute.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.41 X-Spam-Score: -2.41 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: C18A8A2C6 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx11.migadu.com X-TUID: LEW2w5G/oiCw "Thomas Ieong" writes: > Hey, Hi Thomas! > I'm afraid that it isn't the case atleast for now, Kubernetes is not > packaged in Guix and I doubt that it will ever be, for two reasons: > > 1. Our Golang importer still needs some improvement and our Golang > ecosystem isn't in a great shape either, lot of outdated packages just > look at docker still in 20.3 version while upstream is at 26.x something > > 2. Kubernetes as a project just moves too fast, there is just not enough > manpower here to keep up with the pace. IIRC they struggles with this in > the debian world too: https://lwn.net/Articles/835599/ > > Then even if you manage to properly package it, you'd need to define lot of > services definitions and config to integrate it and that's a lot of > work. Maybe k3s[1], a lightweight kubernetes distribution, is an alternative where packaging for guix is simpler? Currently i use it in my homelab running NixOs. In fact for me that is the most missed package in guix ecosystem. NixOs allows me to delaratively describe a k3s node system, spun it up on a fresh system and join it to my cluster within a matter of few minutes. I tried porting the nix package description ([2]) to guix, but the lack of expierence with guix and the hard dependency on systemd was a show stopper for me. Is it even possible to run k3s without systemd on guix? [1] https://k3s.io/ [2] https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/applications/networking/cluster/k3s/builder.nix -- Best regards Christoph