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aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=philipmcgrath.com header.s=fm1 header.b=IQ4l2gjA; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm1 header.b=o8PD41M1; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 0.60 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=philipmcgrath.com header.s=fm1 header.b=IQ4l2gjA; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm1 header.b=o8PD41M1; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 7A56E43861 X-Spam-Score: 0.60 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: qLWCsSKoaiQu Hi, On Sat, Nov 19, 2022, at 7:55 AM, Wojtek Kosior via wrote: >> > > Is there a translation programm in Guix, you can use for offline >> > > translation? =20 >> > =20 >>=20 >> > If you want to edit translation files in .po file format (as used by >> > Guix), I prefer https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/PoMode that gets >> > mentioned in the Guix manual. Alternatively there exist other progr= ams >> > for PO files, like GNOME Translation Editor (=E2=80=9Cguix install >> > gtranslator=E2=80=9D). =20 >>=20 >> I think Francis is talking about something more like a combination of= Google translation and bilingual dictionaries? >>=20 >> If that's the case, I don't know of any options... > > Neither do I know any particularly good tool. There was some work on > libre machine-learning-based translation engines, but the last time I > checked, none of them was actually usable to me - none supported Polish > and all had deps that were not available from APT (I was not yet using > Guix at that time). > On these lines, the best option I=E2=80=99m aware of is the relatively n= ew Mozilla Translate: https://github.com/mozilla/translate I don=E2=80=99t think it=E2=80=99s been packaged for Guix yet, but I don= =E2=80=99t know of any reason why it couldn=E2=80=99t be. The front-end = demonstrated at https://mozilla.github.io/translate downloads language s= upport files on-demand, but I think it could be patched to also package = the models. Language support is not comprehensive, but it does include P= olish. Some of the underlying work is grouped under the Bergamot project: https= ://browser.mt Much of the substantive source code seems to be at: https:= //github.com/browsermt/bergamot-translator I think it would be easy (but= I haven=E2=80=99t tried) to write a front-end in GTK, Qt, or similar in= stead of the HTML+JS front-end.=20 Philip