From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
To: David Craven <david@craven.ch>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Leaving the guix project
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 22:39:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <874lz0err8.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL1_im=HeYi43uzAD=HUJen5cJM3FfXwHn8U3uTWABMXiJ5YWQ@mail.gmail.com> (David Craven's message of "Fri, 10 Mar 2017 21:20:05 +0100")
Hello David,
Thanks for providing feedback.
You make it sound like GuixSD is unusable on real hardware due to the
lack of proprietary firmware, but reality is different. I think this
section I wrote a while back pretty accurately reflects the situation:
https://gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Hardware-Considerations.html
On many laptops WiFi doesn’t work out of the box because they come with
Intel WiFi chips and Intel denies its customers the 4 freedoms,
security, and privacy. Lack of WiFi is an important issue of course,
but it’s easily worked around and it’s pretty much the only issue.
Perhaps you take hardware support in GNU/Linux for granted. When I
started using GNU/Linux, things like sound support or graphics mode
support or webcams would often be missing—things were a lot more
difficult in practice. It’s the dedicated work of volunteers that
brought us drivers for all this.
I don’t feel any pressure to give in proprietary software for the extra
1% convenience it’d bring me.
Now, as others pointed out, GuixSD doesn’t prevent you from running the
software you want. As you know, GUIX_PACKAGE_PATH serves this purpose:
you can easily extend the distro and tweak it to your needs.
One last thing: please don’t describe political struggles as “religion.”
It’s unnecessarily offensive, especially when talking to an atheist.
Happy hacking, and consider using ‘guix environment’ to ease your new
hacking life! :-)
Ludo’.
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2017-02-16 0:14 Leaving the guix project David Craven
2017-02-16 1:40 ` Leo Famulari
2017-02-16 8:24 ` Alex Kost
2017-02-16 8:38 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-02-16 8:40 ` Hartmut Goebel
2017-02-16 11:35 ` Alex Vong
2017-02-16 13:17 ` Andy Wingo
2017-02-16 13:20 ` Andy Wingo
2017-02-17 12:56 ` David Craven
2017-02-17 13:48 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2017-02-17 14:05 ` John Darrington
2017-02-17 16:37 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-02-17 23:47 ` David Craven
2017-02-18 0:25 ` David Craven
2017-02-18 13:02 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-02-19 11:13 ` David Craven
2017-02-18 12:24 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-02-19 18:30 ` Alex Kost
2017-02-20 8:59 ` Tomas Cech
2017-02-20 13:25 ` John Darrington
2017-02-20 22:08 ` ng0
2017-02-21 1:51 ` Mike Gerwitz
2017-02-21 13:13 ` David Craven
2017-02-22 4:52 ` Mike Gerwitz
2017-02-22 13:54 ` David Craven
2017-02-22 13:58 ` John Darrington
2017-02-22 14:06 ` David Craven
2017-02-22 14:14 ` David Craven
2017-02-22 14:44 ` Clément Lassieur
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2017-02-22 15:00 ` David Craven
2017-02-22 15:30 ` Pjotr Prins
2017-02-22 14:30 ` Clément Lassieur
2017-02-22 15:42 ` Leo Famulari
2017-02-22 15:58 ` Mathieu Lirzin
2017-02-22 17:14 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-02-21 8:31 ` Alex Kost
2017-02-21 10:26 ` Leaving the guix project (rust question) ng0
2017-02-21 17:40 ` Leaving the guix project Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2017-03-06 9:44 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-03-10 20:20 ` David Craven
2017-03-10 21:39 ` Ludovic Courtès [this message]
2017-03-11 11:57 ` ng0
2017-03-11 1:30 ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
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2017-02-22 17:29 ` Rodger Fox
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