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And for in= stance, I was > not aware of such propaganda. :-) > > Well, I do not have an opinion, but AFAIK, Guix does not work on the top > of OpenBSD (yet! who knows if someone will not port a BSD kernel with a > GNU userland as Debian did some time ago [1] ;-)) > > For me, it is a niche and for consistency, all the commands using =E2=80= =99sudo=E2=80=99 > should also provide the =E2=80=99doas=E2=80=99 way. And I am not convinc= ed the burden > is worth. Well, I do not have an opinion. I'm also not convinced it brings much, especially since Guix can't be used where 'doas' is likely to be encountered (BSDs). Closing. Thanks for the discussion! Maxim