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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -10.14 X-Spam-Score: -10.14 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: CBFA821695 X-TUID: 2x+oUr8Xv/Zk --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain On 2024-02-27, Andreas Enge wrote: > Am Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 07:26:57AM -0800 schrieb Felix Lechner: >> How about a 48-hour period every month in which commits are permitted >> even if they cause "world rebuilds"? >> We could pause the substitute builders during that period. It would get >> rid of core-updates forever. > > a time-based approach sounds like a good idea indeed; if just for things > like ungrafting, which are considered extremely low risk. It might still > be good to do it in a separate branch instead of master, and to merge it > after substitutes are available. Since "guix pull" takes the latest commit > from the master branch, users could otherwise end up with a world-rebuild > commit without substitutes. > > So maybe we could have a time window, but also discuss and prepare before- > hand which big changes we would like to push? Or a similarly "short" time period where commits to master are blocked, so that substitutes being built for branches-to-be-merged are not chasing a moving target? --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYKAB0WIQRlgHNhO/zFx+LkXUXcUY/If5cWqgUCZd4gpAAKCRDcUY/If5cW qshZAP0eX53hj+Rft1iv5/TSLZ8jV34p/Y64VItG4ekJMv7NiAEAgIjm7rEzFBfM f9Arj3MgfrPsnUowuY0EAeANnDLrhgM= =vwrZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--