* bug#24146: Various window managers need startup services. @ 2016-08-03 17:57 ng0 2016-08-03 20:45 ` Ludovic Courtès 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: ng0 @ 2016-08-03 17:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 24146 We have gnome and xfce with services to start them in gnu/services/desktop.scm. We should add services for: * xmonad * awesome * ratpoison * windowmaker * sawfish * openbox * guile-wm * i3-wm * evilwm * dwm * bspwm And the ones I probably forgot due to bad keywords in their description. -- ♥Ⓐ ng0 Current Keys: https://we.make.ritual.n0.is/ng0.txt For non-prism friendly talk find me on http://www.psyced.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* bug#24146: Various window managers need startup services. 2016-08-03 17:57 bug#24146: Various window managers need startup services ng0 @ 2016-08-03 20:45 ` Ludovic Courtès 2016-08-03 22:42 ` ng0 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2016-08-03 20:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ng0; +Cc: 24146 ng0 <ng0@we.make.ritual.n0.is> skribis: > We have gnome and xfce with services to start them in > gnu/services/desktop.scm. > > We should add services for: > > * xmonad > * awesome > * ratpoison > * windowmaker > * sawfish > * openbox > * guile-wm > * i3-wm > * evilwm > * dwm > * bspwm Unlike full-blown desktop environments (GNOME, Xfce, KDE), I don’t think any of these window managers needs a service, because they typically fit in one package with just one command that needs to be launched. Compare this with ‘gnome-service-type’, which needs to extend Polkit and to add a whole bunch of packages to /run/current-system/profile so that it can work. ratpoison doesn’t need anything like that. :-) I’m closing this bug, but let me know if you think I’m overlooking something! Thank you, Ludo’. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* bug#24146: Various window managers need startup services. 2016-08-03 20:45 ` Ludovic Courtès @ 2016-08-03 22:42 ` ng0 2016-08-03 23:27 ` Ludovic Courtès [not found] ` <20160803233446.wxs34wwnctniribj@crashnator.suse.cz> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: ng0 @ 2016-08-03 22:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ludovic Courtès; +Cc: 24146 Hi, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes: > ng0 <ng0@we.make.ritual.n0.is> skribis: > >> We have gnome and xfce with services to start them in >> gnu/services/desktop.scm. >> >> We should add services for: >> >> * xmonad >> * awesome >> * ratpoison >> * windowmaker >> * sawfish >> * openbox >> * guile-wm >> * i3-wm >> * evilwm >> * dwm >> * bspwm > > Unlike full-blown desktop environments (GNOME, Xfce, KDE), I don’t think > any of these window managers needs a service, because they typically fit > in one package with just one command that needs to be launched. > > Compare this with ‘gnome-service-type’, which needs to extend Polkit and > to add a whole bunch of packages to /run/current-system/profile so that > it can work. > > ratpoison doesn’t need anything like that. :-) > > I’m closing this bug, but let me know if you think I’m overlooking > something! > > Thank you, > Ludo’. Am I overlooking something then? Is a service what is required to make them selectable (cycle by pressing F1) in the SLIM login? I know that they all can be started just with one command, but having them in SLIM would make it more visible as long as we use SLIM. We could also have system config parts for them, for example to make the awesome-wm config adjustable in the system. -- ♥Ⓐ ng0 Current Keys: https://we.make.ritual.n0.is/ng0.txt For non-prism friendly talk find me on http://www.psyced.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* bug#24146: Various window managers need startup services. 2016-08-03 22:42 ` ng0 @ 2016-08-03 23:27 ` Ludovic Courtès [not found] ` <20160803233446.wxs34wwnctniribj@crashnator.suse.cz> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2016-08-03 23:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ng0; +Cc: 24146 Hi, ng0 <ng0@we.make.ritual.n0.is> skribis: > Is a service what is required to make them selectable (cycle by pressing > F1) in the SLIM login? No, all you need is to add them to the ‘packages’ field of the OS, as in the example at (search for “lightweight window managers”): https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/html_node/Using-the-Configuration-System.html#System-Services HTH! Ludo’. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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* Re: bug#24146: Various window managers need startup services. [not found] ` <20160803233446.wxs34wwnctniribj@crashnator.suse.cz> @ 2016-08-08 8:12 ` ng0 2016-08-08 8:15 ` ng0 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: ng0 @ 2016-08-08 8:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: guix-devel Tomáš Čech <tcech@suse.com> writes: > On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 10:42:26PM +0000, ng0 wrote: >>Hi, >> >>Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes: >> >>> ng0 <ng0@we.make.ritual.n0.is> skribis: >>> >>>> We have gnome and xfce with services to start them in >>>> gnu/services/desktop.scm. >>>> >>>> We should add services for: >>>> >>>> * xmonad >>>> * awesome >>>> * ratpoison >>>> * windowmaker >>>> * sawfish >>>> * openbox >>>> * guile-wm >>>> * i3-wm >>>> * evilwm >>>> * dwm >>>> * bspwm >>> >>> Unlike full-blown desktop environments (GNOME, Xfce, KDE), I don’t think >>> any of these window managers needs a service, because they typically fit >>> in one package with just one command that needs to be launched. >>> >>> Compare this with ‘gnome-service-type’, which needs to extend Polkit and >>> to add a whole bunch of packages to /run/current-system/profile so that >>> it can work. >>> >>> ratpoison doesn’t need anything like that. :-) >>> >>> I’m closing this bug, but let me know if you think I’m overlooking >>> something! >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Ludo’. >> >> >>Am I overlooking something then? >> >>Is a service what is required to make them selectable (cycle by pressing >>F1) in the SLIM login? >>I know that they all can be started just with one command, but having >>them in SLIM would make it more visible as long as we use SLIM. > > Desktop files are used for that. > > $ ls /gnu/store/*/share/xsessions/ > > S_W Well awesome has such a file in share/xsessions/, but just installing awesome does not help. reconfiguring the system should, with the package globally available maybe, but as you can see from the bug ticket I had open it is not entirely clear. We should point out in the manual how they are started. -- ♥Ⓐ ng0 Current Keys: https://we.make.ritual.n0.is/ng0.txt For non-prism friendly talk find me on http://www.psyced.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: bug#24146: Various window managers need startup services. [not found] ` <20160803233446.wxs34wwnctniribj@crashnator.suse.cz> 2016-08-08 8:12 ` ng0 @ 2016-08-08 8:15 ` ng0 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: ng0 @ 2016-08-08 8:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: guix-devel Tomáš Čech <tcech@suse.com> writes: > On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 10:42:26PM +0000, ng0 wrote: >>Hi, >> >>Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes: >> >>> ng0 <ng0@we.make.ritual.n0.is> skribis: >>> >>>> We have gnome and xfce with services to start them in >>>> gnu/services/desktop.scm. >>>> >>>> We should add services for: >>>> >>>> * xmonad >>>> * awesome >>>> * ratpoison >>>> * windowmaker >>>> * sawfish >>>> * openbox >>>> * guile-wm >>>> * i3-wm >>>> * evilwm >>>> * dwm >>>> * bspwm >>> >>> Unlike full-blown desktop environments (GNOME, Xfce, KDE), I don’t think >>> any of these window managers needs a service, because they typically fit >>> in one package with just one command that needs to be launched. >>> >>> Compare this with ‘gnome-service-type’, which needs to extend Polkit and >>> to add a whole bunch of packages to /run/current-system/profile so that >>> it can work. >>> >>> ratpoison doesn’t need anything like that. :-) >>> >>> I’m closing this bug, but let me know if you think I’m overlooking >>> something! >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Ludo’. >> >> >>Am I overlooking something then? >> >>Is a service what is required to make them selectable (cycle by pressing >>F1) in the SLIM login? >>I know that they all can be started just with one command, but having >>them in SLIM would make it more visible as long as we use SLIM. > > Desktop files are used for that. > > $ ls /gnu/store/*/share/xsessions/ > > S_W Never mind the previous email, I am preoccupied with other important things the next 2 days and thinking is apparently harder than I thought at the moment. Sorry. -- ♥Ⓐ ng0 Current Keys: https://we.make.ritual.n0.is/ng0.txt For non-prism friendly talk find me on http://www.psyced.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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