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In-Reply-To: Organization: Xelera.eu References: <86wo0mnjs3.fsf@gmail.com> <87d02e3v61.fsf@ambrevar.xyz> <87k0wjt774.fsf@roquette.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <87blhutg3n.fsf@roquette.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <86blhttq1a.fsf@gmail.com> <87blhp55zb.fsf@roquette.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 12:44:43 +0200 Message-ID: <8736306ew4.fsf@roquette.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=46.4.214.66; envelope-from=g@xelera.eu; helo=ns13.heimat.it X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/29 04:42:59 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.61 X-TUID: DdGkhnU9AGYg --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Simon, zimoun writes: > On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 at 10:42, Giovanni Biscuolo wrote: > >> Please consider I'm still on Emacs 26.3 since one package I use does not >> work with 27.1... and I still have not tested "the bug" in a pure >> anvironmentt with emacs 27.1 only > > Ouch! Which one is it? emacs-elfeed-org, bug #43243 I'm considering dismissing elfeed-org, it's useful but not unavoidable :-) >> I'm affected by that bug every time I do: >> >> 1. on machine A: start emacs --daemon >> 2. on machine B: ssh -Y me@A >> 3. on machine B: emacsclient -c (in ssh session) > > Sorry, I miss where this emacsclient is started? A or B? on machine B > If you start emacsclient on B and try to connect over SSH to the > server on A, which option do you provide? (naive question because I > have always failed to do that :-)) Sorry I don't understand the steps you are trying to reproduce: in the use case above I'm starting "emacsclient -c" from machine B when remotely connected via ssh (-Y) to machine A; I'm running emacsclient -c over ssh > Personally, I have 2 uses cases: > > i. > machine A: emacs --daemon > machine B: ssh -C me@A -t emacsclient -t "emacsclient -t" (over ssh) always works for me also, no crashes after disconnection (no X toolkit used in this case) > and I never do "ssh -CX me@A -t emacsclient -c" because the network is > usually too slow to export DISPLAY; machines A and B are usually a bit > far in my cases. I never tested using "Force pseudo-terminal" (-t) when connecting over ssh: I should try that! I usually use X forwarding over VPN over 4G connection: it's a little bit slow but usable. > ii. > machine B: start emacs --daemon > machine B: emacsclient -c > machine B: open via TRAMP over ssh on A > > And Tramp crashes time to time. Ouch: it never happens to me, I mean /ssh:.../ TRAMP method always works like a charm. Have you tried installing "emacs-tramp" package? I had some issue with the built-in emacs TRAMP and realized that emacs-tramp guix package is more up to date with upstream. >> AFAIU this bug is still affecting other Emacs users using GTK as X >> toolkit. > > Yeah, for sure. And as you noted too, it is difficult to know what is > the exact status of this bug. :-) Technically is closed but actually it should be "exausted" :-D [...] Ciao, Gio' =2D-=20 Giovanni Biscuolo Xelera IT Infrastructures --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEERcxjuFJYydVfNLI5030Op87MORIFAl9zEBsACgkQ030Op87M ORKzDQ/9FqYtBogGjjgifJ90ds9bTYLJXuCYtRmSJggEmsrdxr1/uSHGA/jbP3K9 Pp1vYua2nU1WJHw3BSh6KtiQ01YE+MPLLDrUj47O8y6TcORC6L08AtPPkJV8RHvN kWZGkZhaaULE1W93w7Y+qQLJPh2XXEDMt4ZVEohNPRJVt+OOEG/Kp08po3AGfcnI 9H2CNbgDxtFPMYWa9PkcBvsv0TwKyXR4STwK3nMn3xJ83CGIV+kAsR5pjU9CAh99 aJy7E1VbUmALxJCYUZafCv6d4F6OiUNhwgV9L+zCi05/ICyTFeV740QklHbhVIre cX21Mg7Hu6H3bz9ZggQZEhEAQ6FnLqddaed4mNQHSHFk4am3kmKF2ggxrYS9C5f2 B/dJd50BvlZ//NHH5JEjufveIX+wzZYMzI3+HJz0Az2sTkurAdjWRlSyjRC41Zmx ntCU9AoRomHmq2blQY42XLzv7oaWRo8k/wwbtnZETZHKYkUrHgfsjmLvvt/yiEQe j1ZRnyb65KsIgO+AVZ1H8GDCjrH3FNa+FCtjlFYM1lmRIhIC6RHUS9tw7WdBwzt0 4QpgVkR6/AkjV4/s01m/qLbZyFCIeTgMR5SxEVaZj+j1bnY+K68fUseusl/j7VAG RuE4eDZk4BVEO4VdIlcf9EhGgnaEOBddEWOXfUWuy/yF2dDnG4c= =pa5X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--