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Some feedback I hope is useful: I'm one such newbie, and had to stumble my way into discovering why some of my services suddenly broke. All I had to go on was with "invalid G-expression input" at a location in an `operating-system` declaration. Initially, because of the reference to gexps, I thought something had changed with `local-file` which I am using to deploy source code off of a local branch. Through trial and error and reading git logs, I discovered this was not the case, and saw that `define-configuration` had changed. From there I was able to discover the problem. > Yep. I had that on mind when I made the change, though I still missed > a few occurrences. I came looking for an announcement of this change somewhere on a mailing list (info-guix maybe?) or the Guix blog but couldn't find anything. I understand the focus is on in-repo code, but could we consider announcing changes which might affect channels and such? I don't always have time to stay up to date with the changes to the project :( --=20 Katherine