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[66.158.157.228]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d136-20020ae9ef8e000000b006ef1a8f1b81sm7385036qkg.5.2023.01.10.08.47.08 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 10 Jan 2023 08:47:08 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer References: <87358rxgjk.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <325c0ef4-63ad-b45d-96ae-2cf248c37548@disroot.org> <871qoavyn2.fsf@gmail.com> <9336884519247fe7c9a9cf0d532eb8a79b954a7f.camel@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2023 11:47:07 -0500 In-Reply-To: <9336884519247fe7c9a9cf0d532eb8a79b954a7f.camel@gmail.com> (Liliana Marie Prikler's message of "Fri, 06 Jan 2023 18:46:38 +0100") Message-ID: <87358il4l0.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b="GbXs/zt7"; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none) ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1673374582; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=JZ93y36oifBxYG49e0/dlWL0Pjy8X0iJ9evCD+Gy1+Ga85oOkRotCgCqkK+BIEL/t//ZX4 +h5wg2t/zXqdmdUEmZhAjIJLiqMkBTBqgDV+gBlv+VOEjZEOB0r4PxWTMHUPyCdAXeZtJN aif1vhxvGWUDwp/X2TV94r0NLO/vn0s6Wqcq89SVELDFVx++t/zyLUbhH3egsEglMPTa8K p2nsfJ9Rolysl0XuSH1JT4P8wv6zYjcwEVM7TJCwO6DXXn7+Q1tRG93dgd/5UnwwrzdXdS 9VvwORrsLWJVWoq/RkaOqZ/RPEJgtAPWg79NEBSl6dvGGFAepLAChOFDAXWDbQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1673374582; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:resent-cc: resent-from:resent-sender:resent-message-id:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=elSCxnXsyPq9H0dBWHjQFAM8cjpM3zIYfy8W+vye6BQ=; b=m181yBFt7LaA5lD23ZJOj2Ll6fbSyNYe0Ddrqg74m4DZ/wFBeB7bLbJqHlpEZj95cfL+ii K8CvTUjiLT3Ynr6205MOPcYMRj2HJ2rD5YqM93eu7E7c2XKxMmvsO6MM0MqWta1yvobkQf D4zuF6ltg5TAkBQ9TEdMRUz3cm/RoH+to8jbG4LKbL96grG4G5b7NKjsxtuK0nWVIOC71C 8h9fTa4LffYfxsd7CVEoj8z12OxrW9ttuoqHYeCEKZuE8uKfU5Yde4UiqU960V3+xB2lrC paZAUkzkOq9z5YZwGI2/CT6koRZk85yYlOCW+fhH0hVEXG2QOJD+lcU0jlibxA== X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 1A2593B4F9 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b="GbXs/zt7"; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none) X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.48 X-Spam-Score: -0.48 X-TUID: MopYOIWarX0n Hi Liliana, Liliana Marie Prikler writes: > Am Mittwoch, dem 04.01.2023 um 15:21 -0500 schrieb Maxim Cournoyer: >> Hi, >>=20 >> That it is present in Trisquel says a lot about its standing with >> FSDG. >>=20 >> [...] Guix contains free software packages contributed by its >> contributors, not a curated list of software that have been deemed >> useful or worthy based on the opinions of the Guix >> committers/reviewers. > There are different interpretations of the FSDG. For instance, the > fact that we are downloading the blobby kernel and patching it is by > some regarded as iffy, but generally regarded as not an issue by Guix > people. Here, I'm using the point the FSDG raises with regards to > distributions about name confusion and apply it to software. Now > admittedly, that's a stretch, but one that makes me personally > uncomfortable if I'm told to sign off a commit that introduces such > software for =E2=80=93 in my opinion =E2=80=93 no good reason. I think unrar-free, if it makes libarchive easier to use via an intuitive CLI, serves a purpose. What we are discussing here is whether there's a problem or not with the FSDG and the name 'unrar-free'. Given the argument that 'unrar-free' package could steer users toward 'unrar' non-free (which is not available in Guix) is a bit of a stretch (as you admitted), I don't think it's ground to refuse its inclusion in Guix. --=20 Thanks, Maxim