emacs-guix

emacs-guix

[Christopher Howard]

Hi, I was wondering if there is a specific person here who focuses on the emacs-guix package — development or maintainence. It seems like my bug reports for that don't usually get any responses, so I was starting to work on troubleshooting my own bug reports. But was wondering if there is somebody who oversees that package, or has their own dev branch, or whatever such that it would be important to collaborate with them on troubleshooting and patches. I CC'd the e-mail address I found for the Emacs Team.

I'm not really interesting much in being a guix developer right now, but I've gained enough proficiency in Emacs and elisp to at least troubleshoot/investigate. The bug I am focusing currently is 73462.

I don't know if the original emacs-guix developer (Alex Kost) is still involved and/or wants to be CC'd.

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Re: emacs-guix

[Liliana Marie Prikler]

Am Montag, dem 30.09.2024 um 10:10 -0800 schrieb Christopher Howard:
> Hi, I was wondering if there is a specific person here who focuses on
> the emacs-guix package — development or maintainence. It seems like
> my bug reports for that don't usually get any responses, so I was
> starting to work on troubleshooting my own bug reports. But was
> wondering if there is somebody who oversees that package, or has
> their own dev branch, or whatever such that it would be important to
> collaborate with them on troubleshooting and patches. I CC'd the e-
> mail address I found for the Emacs Team.
If you wish to update the emacs-guix package (or patching, etc.), then
yeah, CC'ing emacs-team for faster processing is the way to go.  That
said, we don't typically know about every emacs package in there, much
less their intrinsics.

Regarding the functionality of emacs-guix, as far as I know, the
derivation mode still works, but the UI etc. has a hard time otherwise.

> I'm not really interesting much in being a guix developer right now,
> but I've gained enough proficiency in Emacs and elisp to at least
> troubleshoot/investigate. The bug I am focusing currently is 73462.
> 
> I don't know if the original emacs-guix developer (Alex Kost) is
> still involved and/or wants to be CC'd.
It is a known bug and has been for some time.  Sadly, no one's
submitted a fix yet.

Cheers

Re: emacs-guix

[Simon Tournier]

Hi,

On lun., 30 sept. 2024 at 10:10, Christopher Howard <christopher@librehacker.com> wrote:

> I'm not really interesting much in being a guix developer right now,
> but I've gained enough proficiency in Emacs and elisp to at least
> troubleshoot/investigate. The bug I am focusing currently is 73462. 

As far as I remember, the package Emacs-Guix needs some love.  The
maintenance had been moved around 2020, see:

    [sr #110376] Creating an Emacs-Guix Git repository for Guix
    Ludovic Courtès <INVALID.NOREPLY@gnu.org>
    Mon, 16 Nov 2020 04:14:29 -0500
    id:20201116-101427.sv15145.79673@savannah.nongnu.org
    https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2020-11
    https://yhetil.org/guix/20201116-101427.sv15145.79673@savannah.nongnu.org

And since then, the package has entered in low maintenance mode.  From
my understanding, the package Emacs-Guix is looking for
co-maintainers. :-)

Cheers,
simon

Re: emacs-guix

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi Christopher,

Alex Kost wrote in the past that they no longer want to be involved.

As you know, the “official” repo is now at
<https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix/emacs-guix.git>.  If you would
like to give a hand or take over maintenance, you’ve very much welcome
to do so: it’s a great piece of software and it’s sad to see it bitrot.

For now, you can send patches to guix-patches@gnu.org with “Emacs-Guix”
in the subject and I and other committers would be happy to apply them.

Thanks for offering to help!

Ludo’.

Re: emacs-guix

[Christopher Howard]

Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:

> For now, you can send patches to guix-patches@gnu.org with “Emacs-Guix”
> in the subject and I and other committers would be happy to apply them.
>

Thank you. I have now cloned the repository. My spare time is very limited in this stage of my life, but I am hoping over the winter that I will be able to work on learning the code and patching a few bugs. (It is winter now in Alaska.) Lately I have been busy trying to finish my EmacsConf talks.

Could somebody explain the best approach to running/testing modified emacs-guix source from a Guix system? I see emacs-guix is loaded from the site-start.el file in the profile, and then this loads guix-emacs-autoload-packages, which is critical for running Emacs on a Guix system. So, it is not obvious to me the most sensible approach for iterative building and testing.

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Christopher Howard

Re: emacs-guix

[Andrew Tropin]

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On 2024-10-23 13:25, Christopher Howard wrote:

> Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> For now, you can send patches to guix-patches@gnu.org with “Emacs-Guix”
>> in the subject and I and other committers would be happy to apply them.
>>
>
> Thank you. I have now cloned the repository. My spare time is very limited in this stage of my life, but I am hoping over the winter that I will be able to work on learning the code and patching a few bugs. (It is winter now in Alaska.) Lately I have been busy trying to finish my EmacsConf talks.
>
> Could somebody explain the best approach to running/testing modified
> emacs-guix source from a Guix system? I see emacs-guix is loaded from
> the site-start.el file in the profile, and then this loads
> guix-emacs-autoload-packages, which is critical for running Emacs on a
> Guix system. So, it is not obvious to me the most sensible approach
> for iterative building and testing.

You can basically re-eval the whole .el file or just a part of it with
M-x eval-buffer/defun/whatever and check the updated behavior.

Be aware that guix-emacs is not emacs-guix.  It's unrelated
guix-specific machinery.  emacs-guix should work completely fine without
it and all usual emacs development approaches will apply for it.

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Best regards,
Andrew Tropin

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Re: emacs-guix

[Christopher Howard]

Andrew Tropin <andrew@trop.in> writes:

> Be aware that guix-emacs is not emacs-guix.  It's unrelated
> guix-specific machinery.  emacs-guix should work completely fine without
> it and all usual emacs development approaches will apply for it.

Okay, thanks for clearing that up. I was thinking they were all parts of one package. That makes it a lot simpler. I'll plan to start studying the emacs-guix code after I finish up my last EmacsConf video, God willing.

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Christopher Howard