From: Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Customizing /etc
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:11:53 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <871tb7df6u.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87a8pz7am8.fsf_-_@gnu.org
Ludovic Courtès (2015-11-27 17:58 +0300) wrote:
> Alex Kost <alezost@gmail.com> skribis:
[...]
>> I like the idea of separating /etc/environment and /etc/profile, but my
>> main concern is to have a possibility to change /etc files the way I
>> want, as I explained in the reply to Ludovic.
>
> I agree that specifying what goes into /etc is something we want to
> allow (though not directly related to the /etc/profile issue.)
Oof, that's a relief for me! I had an impression that you are against
giving a user a full control over /etc files.
> What about exposing the name/file-like pairs that are passed to
> ‘etc-service’? That way, one could write:
>
> (define os
> (operating-system
> ;; …
> (etc-files `(("hosts" ,(local-file "my-hosts-file"))
> ("issue" ,(plain-file "Hello!\n"))
> ("sudoers" ,(local-file "sudoers"))
> ("profile" ,(local-file "myprofile"))
> ,@(fold alist-delete
> (default-etc-files os)
> '("hosts" "issue" "sudoers" "profile"))))))
Yes, changing /etc files is exactly what I want!
> We may remove the ‘hosts-file’ and ‘sudoers-file’ fields, but keep
> higher-level things like ‘name-service-switch’ because they’re more
> convenient.
Yes, I agree; if this will be accepted, keeping '<foo>-file' fields (for
hosts, sudoers and future files) is probably not needed.
> The difficulty is that some of the default files, such as /etc/hosts,
> are generated as a function of the ‘operating-system’ declaration. Thus
> I think we need ‘default-etc-files’ to be a procedure as shown above,
> and the ‘etc-files’ field must be thunked or delayed. Hmm not fully
> sure this is the right interface.
>
> WDYT?
Yes, this will probably not be an easy-to-use interface, but to have it
is better than to have nothing. So I am totally for it!
> The bottom line is that /etc is not a great configuration interface
> because it’s all flat and GuixSD has no idea of the meaning of those
> files and their relationship. So the preferred approach remains
> configuration via services and high-level configuration objects.
Yes, I agree; but if a user is not satisfied by the result of these
high-level services, I think (s)he should have a fallback way to
change/override the resulting /etc file.
--
Alex
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-30 9:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-04 10:29 bug#20255: 'search-paths' should respect both user and system profile 宋文武
2015-04-04 21:04 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-04-05 3:39 ` 宋文武
2015-04-05 18:15 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-04-06 4:02 ` 宋文武
2015-04-06 8:24 ` Mark H Weaver
2015-05-02 22:12 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-19 22:32 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-20 22:42 ` Alex Kost
2015-11-21 8:57 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-21 18:41 ` Alex Kost
2015-11-21 20:10 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-22 7:52 ` Alex Kost
2015-11-22 10:52 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-22 18:44 ` Alex Kost
2015-11-22 23:04 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-23 11:55 ` Alex Kost
2015-11-23 14:31 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-23 20:07 ` Adding operating-system field for a custom /etc/profile Alex Kost
2015-11-24 12:48 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-24 19:36 ` Alex Kost
2015-11-24 20:30 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-30 9:10 ` Alex Kost
2015-11-30 13:00 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-24 15:22 ` 宋文武
2015-11-24 20:03 ` Alex Kost
2015-11-27 14:58 ` Customizing /etc Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-30 9:11 ` Alex Kost [this message]
2015-11-27 14:34 ` /etc/environment and /etc/profile Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-24 17:22 ` bug#20255: 'search-paths' should respect both user and system profile Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-30 9:08 ` Alex Kost
2015-11-30 12:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-05-04 21:44 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-05-05 8:28 ` 宋文武
2015-05-05 12:35 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-05-06 16:35 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-11-12 11:13 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-02-21 15:53 ` bug#20255: (old)bug#20255: 'search-paths' should respect both user and system profiles zimoun
2020-02-21 17:18 ` Alex Kost
2021-06-26 2:37 ` bug#20255: 'search-paths' should respect both user and system profile Maxim Cournoyer
2021-06-26 5:59 ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-28 4:35 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2021-06-28 6:58 ` Leo Prikler
2021-06-27 9:59 ` Alex Kost
2021-06-28 4:48 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2021-06-29 17:29 ` Alex Kost
2020-12-18 20:27 ` bug#20255: «the Oldest» [PATCH] 'search-paths' should respect both user and system profiles zimoun
2023-05-12 12:34 ` bug#20255: 'search-paths' should respect both user and system profile 宋文武 via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-05-15 13:53 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-05-17 14:12 ` 宋文武
2023-05-15 17:14 ` Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-05-15 17:46 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2023-05-16 9:37 ` Josselin Poiret via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-05-16 11:00 ` 宋文武 via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-05-17 14:04 ` bug#20255: [PATCH 1/4] home: shells: Merge search-paths of multiple profiles iyzsong--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-05-17 14:04 ` bug#20255: [PATCH 2/4] system: default-skeletons: Set up Guix home profile when it exists iyzsong--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-05-17 14:04 ` bug#20255: [PATCH 3/4] system: Only source system profile's settings in '/etc/profile' iyzsong--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix
2023-05-17 14:04 ` bug#20255: [PATCH 4/4] news: Add entry for '/etc/profile' changes iyzsong--- via Bug reports for GNU Guix
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-09-14 7:35 User-profile search paths should include system-profile directories Carlos Sánchez de La Lama
2016-09-14 14:58 ` Ludovic Courtès
2016-09-15 7:38 ` Alex Kost
2016-09-19 14:08 ` Customizing /etc Ludovic Courtès
2016-09-20 14:14 ` Alex Kost
2017-05-16 8:43 Alex Kost
2017-05-17 8:28 ` Ludovic Courtès
2017-05-18 13:33 ` Alex Kost
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