From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: Re: GuixSD on arm Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 13:47:49 +0200 Message-ID: <871t30mm56.fsf@gnu.org> References: <519f39f9fd058fe1050b98233e53a479@posteo.de> <87zipxbeqa.fsf@gnu.org> <78091fb7-231b-8d75-f113-1fbe921cf314@posteo.de> <87vb0lwcj3.fsf@we.make.ritual.n0.is> <20160704221828.GA15580@novena-choice-citizen.lan> <87furo1ok4.fsf@gnu.org> <20160705154442.GA7204@novena-choice-citizen.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47714) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bMZh2-0001uJ-Gi for help-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 07:48:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bMZgy-0006D0-8H for help-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 07:48:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20160705154442.GA7204@novena-choice-citizen.lan> (Jookia's message of "Wed, 6 Jul 2016 01:44:42 +1000") List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+gcggh-help-guix=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Help-Guix" To: Jookia <166291@gmail.com> Cc: help-guix@gnu.org, t3sserakt Hi! Jookia <166291@gmail.com> skribis: > On Tue, Jul 05, 2016 at 10:23:07AM +0200, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: [...] >> > - GNUness over pragmatism. >> > >> > The main issue I had with doing an ARM port is the bootloader, and thi= s is >> > because everyone I spoke to except Ludovic seemed to be hesitant towar= ds using a >> > bootloader other than GRUB. >>=20 >> I wrote repeatedly that using U-Boot is fine, especially if GRUB doesn= =E2=80=99t >> work on this platform. > > I know that's your stance on it, but there's multiple maintainers on Guix= and > multiple people to talk about the issue, especially if I need help or rev= iew on > code. It's unsettling emotionally to see different people, especially aut= hority > figures who work with the code and decide what's useful or not, giving mi= xed > answers as to what direction things should be taken. Implementing somethi= ng that > only one developer approves of makes me question if it really is the right > approach or worth people's time. I don=E2=80=99t remember anyone rejecting the idea of using U-Boot per se. BTW, formally I=E2=80=99m currently the only maintainer. However, I think = most decisions should be (and indeed are) based on consensus among active contributors (developers and people who participate in discussions.) That can introduce delays in the short term, but I think it makes the whole project stronger in the long run. Cheers, Ludo=E2=80=99.