From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp10.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id AHFIHrbb1GFZCgEAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2022 00:43:50 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp10.migadu.com with LMTPS id ELzvFrbb1GGR+wAAG6o9tA (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 05 Jan 2022 00:43:50 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 209224604A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2022 00:43:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1]:57054 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4tT3-0005dL-As for larch@yhetil.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 18:43:49 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53142) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4tSr-0005d7-Ur for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 18:43:37 -0500 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:60932) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n4tSq-0000ZR-3T for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 18:43:37 -0500 Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n4tSe-0001sK-2t; Tue, 04 Jan 2022 18:43:24 -0500 From: Mark H Weaver To: Liliana Marie Prikler , zimoun , guix-devel@gnu.org Subject: Re: On raw strings in commit field In-Reply-To: <3f947861672144d202a8c736d5e8f2b905c31b66.camel@gmail.com> References: <6e451a878b749d4afb6eede9b476e5faabb0d609.camel@gmail.com> <86y243kdoo.fsf@gmail.com> <899587fb6a76ddfa37d197d3d0fd23cdc7ad8592.camel@gmail.com> <867dbmi7pf.fsf@gmail.com> <3d448fe42f0c43574db96fa26aecd7da5fd5a95d.camel@gmail.com> <877dbkmjm9.fsf@netris.org> <762e9fb7116c442bf0f8f63221bf32fa2b77f2cf.camel@gmail.com> <87y240kq2i.fsf@netris.org> <9362c6fb7e34ded5d009c3f79cd18300d6cd539c.camel@gmail.com> <87r19rkx9h.fsf@netris.org> <87r19pbv8y.fsf@netris.org> <87mtkcbedc.fsf@netris.org> <3f947861672144d202a8c736d5e8f2b905c31b66.camel@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2022 18:42:40 -0500 Message-ID: <871r1nawz8.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.112.178.59; envelope-from=mhw@netris.org; helo=world.peace.net X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.0 / 5.0 requ) SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1641339830; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=Qf73xWI4qCpmRDfB/O1MJK5on0lej1M848U94XSZWzM=; b=h1aDpSwPv95JGdLYCvd+P5NIYur299Mj333htMbwMYmZkBoM/emm/jY/0WCeWg0KWyud6z jKU4222Tw1PDewE4khjcetCIz0nRLmzTwW+cldFk/Hqc6VzQHm6OA0NGWIlGg/SVbu5svS px52QeLTi18SNyiTeViXPH8N+hEBzVwxkmpKf2BourjyLG7JGp03dIVVs68gBBy8uM4knK mMriZgFuBx3z7eUw+WUpg0xL5Bx/JH1tEWtNKibzyV0avkcGbkMdirq+5UmjlVqyrAUFGy NRcqTCHHiFDn9/a4cbi3gpFtNfRZOYZlZtiiSFIi4QKXEVjhp3Sg3cOaU6akHQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1641339830; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=fpzxuMi1mxQWYE9utKbLHwU2JDJnYCFs/MqpMxhvaXHmuMS0rJUPLkP5w5hRNyBrW2QHpy 5VCpq27fkir6w54hl4RC5eXn6WsPj5Lb1OR4tG0co9PLFa62sP+Wi64vqrvh5mrR4dzZyp NDDQvKatqQQK4RZ21/oIMv2kYo2kiOFYi1f5mF01uaa4xx9MVoDoSNKJ/XsAMGYFL9NuaF E+o9yLfogJiJPZtL25+wRBKUr/q8wsrpb6od155x0hk+KuaqLdL62rnhcl8D1tdn/TqB7J FD1IcU0IIgx8M5pHokt5Yhegct7FpzdCNItaUfeflmHKNp+rH+Bd7MgY86j+OQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.09 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 209224604A X-Spam-Score: -3.09 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: eUT1O7sybqaH Hi Liliana, Liliana Marie Prikler writes: > Am Montag, dem 03.01.2022 um 18:14 -0500 schrieb Mark H Weaver: >>=20 >> > If you are talking specifically about the uncountability of real >> > numbers, that'd be quite deep down (as in an uncountability of push >> > actions to a particular Git repo, particularly if we also allow >> > reinitialization). >>=20 >> Hmm.=C2=A0 I think that the set of push actions to a particular Git repo >> is countable, even if we allow reinitialization.=C2=A0 What makes you >> think that it's uncountable?=C2=A0 I'd be very curious to see your >> argument for that. > I can always add another by force-pushing a tree with a single commit, > garbage collecting and then pushing regular commits on top, which > should be able to reuse previously existing hashes. Even if not, since > we identify a repo by URL, I could ask the forge to delete it and then > push a completely reinitialized repo under the same name. Sorry, but this is not even close to a valid argument that the set of possible push actions to a Git repo is uncountable. In fact, it's quite easy to prove that the set is countable. Any mathematician will know this. I'll also note that the Cantor-style diagonalization argument, which you have repeatedly claimed to have, is still nowhere to be found. To make matters worse, you gaslit me earlier by claiming that I was failing to see it in your earlier message, when it's clearly not there. If you have such an argument, you're apparently unwilling to share it with us. Mark --=20 Disinformation flourishes because many people care deeply about injustice but very few check the facts. Ask me about .