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dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=trop.in header.s=gm1 header.b=WH6SYVig; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.41 X-Spam-Score: -5.41 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 29985F8B4 X-TUID: 0Cf27onKTnzZ --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2023-06-10 10:51, Liliana Marie Prikler wrote: > Am Samstag, dem 10.06.2023 um 12:20 +0400 schrieb Andrew Tropin: >> On 2023-06-10 09:46, Liliana Marie Prikler wrote: >>=20 >> > Am Samstag, dem 10.06.2023 um 10:46 +0400 schrieb Andrew Tropin: >> > > On 2023-06-09 18:22, Liliana Marie Prikler wrote: >> > >=20 >> > > > Hi Guix, >> > > >=20 >> > > > it's already been four weeks since the newest Emacs pre- >> > > > release.=C2=A0 >> > > > Time >> > > > sure flies.=C2=A0 With that in mind, I'd like to start work in the >> > > > Emacs >> > > > team >> > > > focused on >> > > > 1. streamlining our Emacs packages >> > > > 2. improving emacs-build-system and adapting it to the new >> > > > features >> > > > of >> > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 Emacs 29 (including the almost forgotten [1]) >> > > > 3. improving our Emacs package management (i.e. making it >> > > > easier to >> > > > =C2=A0=C2=A0 declare variants of emacs-* packages built with diffe= rent >> > > > Emacsen) >> > > >=20 >> > > > This series gets us started on (1), so we can do (2) and (3) >> > > > hopefully >> > > > soon. >> > > >=20 >> > > > Cheers >> > > >=20 >> > > > [1] https://issues.guix.gnu.org/57122 >> > > >=20 >> > > > Liliana Marie Prikler (2): >> > > > =C2=A0 gnu: Make emacs-next-tree-sitter the new emacs. >> > > > =C2=A0 gnu: Construct Emacs packages from bottom up. >> > > >=20 >> > > > =C2=A0gnu/local.mk=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= |=C2=A0=C2=A0 1 - >> > > > =C2=A0gnu/packages/emacs.scm=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 | 467 +++++++--- >> > > > ---- >> > > > ---- >> > > > =C2=A0.../patches/emacs-source-date-epoch.patch=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 |=C2=A0 20 - >> > > > =C2=A03 files changed, 190 insertions(+), 298 deletions(-) >> > > > =C2=A0delete mode 100644 gnu/packages/patches/emacs-source-date- >> > > > epoch.patch >> > > >=20 >> > > >=20 >> > > > base-commit: 44bbfc24e4bcc48d0e3343cd3d83452721af8c36 >> > >=20 >> > > Hi Liliana,=20 >> > >=20 >> > > the patch series looks good, thank you for working on this.=C2=A0 Do >> > > we want to add (define-deprecated/alias) to make the transition >> > > to new emacs package names smoother? >> > Since it'll be a "world"-rebuilding change, I think a news entry >> > ought to be preferred. >>=20 >> I don't think one excludes another.=C2=A0 We can provide both news entry >> and deprecation alias.=C2=A0 This way we let people update guix channel >> version without any changes to their configurations, let them know >> emacs-next-blabla will dissapear soon and give them time to react and >> update their configurations accordingly without hurry. >>=20 >> I'm ok proceeding without this extra step, but the deprecation >> workflow seems nicer to me. > You're right in that one does not exclude the other, but there are > practical limitations. When emacs itself has version 29, emacs-next > ought to be 30, imho. Sounds reasonable, but I think it would be ok, if after updating emacs, emacs-next will be 29 for a couple of weeks with deprecation warning on top of it. The meaning of -next suffix is a convention, not a technical limitation, so it's fine to violate it for deprecation period. 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