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envelope-from=felix.lechner@lease-up.com; helo=sail-ipv4.us-core.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-guix@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-to: Felix Lechner From: Felix Lechner via Errors-To: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: help-guix-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.54 X-Spam-Score: -4.54 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 0197923697 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-TUID: t5WOFmAqijPd Hi, On Tue, Nov 07 2023, Maxim Cournoyer wrote: >> Felix Lechner via writes: >> >>> Those shortfalls are a consequence of our packaging habits. In an ideal >>> world, would running a test suite ever build a different derivation? > > You seem to be confusing 'derivation', which is the build recipe > description that a package "compiles" to, with the package output, the > result of executing the derivation. Maybe that comment was not a response to mine. Either way, please allow me to restate what I meant: A source tree should produce the same derivation regardless of whether build-time tests ran or didn't. It should also pull the same substitute. Kind regards Felix