From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id 5V1CAzm3PmE9ggAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 04:28:09 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id AALxOTi3PmF2IQAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 02:28:08 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B86C513F08 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 04:28:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:51092 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPbhX-0006k9-PC for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 22:28:07 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56064) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPbhT-0006hA-2o for guix-patches@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 22:28:03 -0400 Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:60476) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPbhS-0003Z8-BF for guix-patches@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 22:28:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPbhS-00077W-8C for guix-patches@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 22:28:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: [bug#31307] [PATCH] Add MAT, the Metadata Anonymisation Toolkit from Boum Resent-From: Sarah Morgensen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: guix-patches@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 02:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31307 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix-patches X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch To: Chris Marusich Cc: 31307@debbugs.gnu.org, Nils Gillmann Received: via spool by 31307-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31307.163150002327297 (code B ref 31307); Mon, 13 Sep 2021 02:28:02 +0000 Received: (at 31307) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2021 02:27:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43787 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPbgV-00076D-BM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 22:27:03 -0400 Received: from out0.migadu.com ([94.23.1.103]:61448) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPbgT-00075m-2r for 31307@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Sep 2021 22:27:02 -0400 X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mgsn.dev; s=key1; t=1631500020; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=7bN0LFrqk7Yk0AUnlilkVut1HAoAGqiDxls43N9MmTA=; b=Sq9qkhInQ2HJuR1I7pLYOERzZ8vvj3PUk//AlNQvogNz7aqV3gTUs28utAREBkQgVQvXxO GNovbkCDzU3CheQu/ghVr0stDFEEM1n34y1xWq26QOJX3x0jfo6jup6GmVPU6nOTE5htuX I5pLWrvHAcC2yeJ0xOOYdtjrvnVd9uA= From: Sarah Morgensen In-Reply-To: <20180616134249.qvmysgxpl2o54u2r@abyayala> (Nils Gillmann's message of "Sat, 16 Jun 2018 13:42:49 +0000 (3 years, 12 weeks, 4 days ago)") References: <87wowrj9kq.fsf@gmail.com> <877eohrgeu.fsf@gnu.org> <20180506194444.GB8038@jasmine.lan> <20180616134249.qvmysgxpl2o54u2r@abyayala> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 19:26:58 -0700 Message-ID: <86k0jljjm5.fsf@mgsn.dev> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: guix-patches@gnu.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-patches-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-patches" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1631500088; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:resent-cc: resent-from:resent-sender:resent-message-id:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=7bN0LFrqk7Yk0AUnlilkVut1HAoAGqiDxls43N9MmTA=; b=OcdRzVYHLaSuicDXlccGtKUX/ibRCTRQ6Evr0iQhdyvoXhVj9HQS1rkMJdSi+4XcqTIfxv lNVC04N7wHgrrjbS1UAILKYCSN1AlhioehtF5tbBI5mLO5fHlm9XBJfJBBYrdczxlQ6KPa qcrMSOysg9a1z0gQmVvxVBXKcKa8C3rNIg++gtHjq4LX4DaVC21WSMnwepf5rHUUgPITW9 wZfmqWU+rPKKFThIzoxiclF9lje5K1I1OaY5mQIQSau1GaGjPcBj6TjddbVzKGsIYQNbH1 PJl6TFPQSsS/G5SdaAmK+oZtHPe6d+/JQHcR/kR/vsXmv2LkLFTna1D6amVFDg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1631500088; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=MuO/Wfs/sVC+lmBP3VyR1Qk+H2cqPQELlu/z3UbdU8twtpI9nifH5IezBFOXbIpR+TjxMp q62IsdNd2sDxtB2Bt6xzlXO995pT7aQ+IuqwiNyPl89GJ7QznN9bbRAGSbDmDfhJvdGPR0 PoCYdzZRsK3Oy+fXKmUz+Bt4OmB8XNo74LCxFE7SqL1+qU2TqEkl7tzFNSqslXaswaPnl/ bpuP3Nfr5zk6VdkCFxZ20FV7qNIg3zXW5Xpx7MrLGiMfp7LlMzuVJdGaUyTUOwM52isLjF yovZE4HkXQERPQRBHQfCcV07jpdLRuGuGs8d6ikZSob+4IcLyprHqhIzXZkSTQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=mgsn.dev header.s=key1 header.b=Sq9qkhIn; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=mgsn.dev (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 0.19 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=mgsn.dev header.s=key1 header.b=Sq9qkhIn; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=mgsn.dev (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-patches-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B86C513F08 X-Spam-Score: 0.19 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: /PwTp9qa1juQ Hi all, Nils Gillmann writes: > Leo Famulari transcribed 2.5K bytes: >> On Sat, May 05, 2018 at 10:33:45PM +0200, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: >> > Chris Marusich skribis: >> > > Should we refrain from adding this package simply because the author= is >> > > not maintaining it any more? I'm inclined to say "no", but one also= has >> > > to consider whether it is a a good idea to encourage people to use an >> > > unmaintained tool for protecting their privacy/anonymity. I'm not s= ure. >> >=20 >> > It=E2=80=99s risky, indeed. As time passes it=E2=80=99s likely to hav= e more and more >> > known-but-unfixed security issues, which isn=E2=80=99t great. Leo, th= oughts on >> > this situation? >>=20 >> I see two different issues here: >>=20 >> 1) The project is unmaintained (last release 2016) and the underlying >> platform (Python 2) will become unmaintained in January 2020. >>=20 >> I think these maintenance issues are not a blocker in this case. We >> package lots of software that has been basically abandoned for longer >> than MAT. Its source repo saw activity in March. On this subject, we >> should think about building from HEAD since those new commits will >> probably never be "released". >>=20 >> 2) The software is not guaranteed to achieve its goals. >>=20 >> I think the idea of "anonymizing" a file is always going to be >> manifested as a goal rather than a full solution. No matter the level of >> upstream maintenance, anonymity can never be guaranteed. >>=20 >> So, I think it's okay to add the package with a big warning in the >> description, maybe even saying something scary like "only recommended >> for educational and research activity". > > I agree (and hope we won't just drop python-2 in 2020 because that would > be unreasonable). If someone wants to give this a try again, MAT 2 seems to be under active development, and is based on python 3: https://0xacab.org/jvoisin/mat2 It looks slick, and is GPL3+. -- Sarah