Blog post about the upcoming FOSDEM + Guix Day

Blog post about the upcoming FOSDEM + Guix Day

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hello!

I prepared a blog post that about FOSDEM that I think we should publish
today or tomorrow:

  https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix/guix-artwork.git/tree/website/drafts/meet-guix-at-fosdem-2021.md

Regarding the Guix Day next Monday, do we have the BBB URL or will it be
disclosed later?  What should we say regarding practical connection
info?

Likewise, if you see anything to change, please amend or send patches
and suggestions!

Ludo’.

Re: Blog post about the upcoming FOSDEM + Guix Day

[zimoun]

Hi Ludo,

On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 10:35, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:

>   https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix/guix-artwork.git/tree/website/drafts/meet-guix-at-fosdem-2021.md

LGTM!

> Regarding the Guix Day next Monday, do we have the BBB URL or will it be
> disclosed later?  What should we say regarding practical connection
> info?

The Fosshost BBB instance at <https://guixbbb.fosshost.org/> is still
alive.  We are using it every week to run our Outreachy Weekly
meeting.
Aside that, I do not know what is planned for the Day.

Cheers,
simon

Re: Blog post about the upcoming FOSDEM + Guix Day

[Pjotr Prins]

On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 10:41:53AM +0100, zimoun wrote:
> Hi Ludo,
> 
> On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 10:35, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
> 
> >   https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix/guix-artwork.git/tree/website/drafts/meet-guix-at-fosdem-2021.md
> 
> LGTM!
> 
> > Regarding the Guix Day next Monday, do we have the BBB URL or will it be
> > disclosed later?  What should we say regarding practical connection
> > info?
> 
> The Fosshost BBB instance at <https://guixbbb.fosshost.org/> is still
> alive.  We are using it every week to run our Outreachy Weekly
> meeting.
> Aside that, I do not know what is planned for the Day.

So far, we'll have a GNU Hurd session and a Rust packaging session. We
will also discuss ARM, RISC-V and GNU Mes. Otherwise the program is
open for newbies and unconference topics alike. If you want to propose
something this may be the time.

BTW Manolis and I previewed the talks of the FOSDEM devroom and it is
going to be amazing!

  https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/track/declarative_and_minimalistic_computing/

Attending is free. Just click on the talk when it starts. It'll stream
on Jitsy and we have matrix for chat (join http://chat.fosdem.org).
Thank you to all those who took the trouble of recording a
presentation :)

Pj.

PS the talks will be available after for viewing too.

Re: Blog post about the upcoming FOSDEM + Guix Day

[Ludovic Courtès]

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Hi,

zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> skribis:

> On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 10:35, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>>   https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix/guix-artwork.git/tree/website/drafts/meet-guix-at-fosdem-2021.md
>
> LGTM!
>
>> Regarding the Guix Day next Monday, do we have the BBB URL or will it be
>> disclosed later?  What should we say regarding practical connection
>> info?
>
> The Fosshost BBB instance at <https://guixbbb.fosshost.org/> is still
> alive.  We are using it every week to run our Outreachy Weekly
> meeting.
> Aside that, I do not know what is planned for the Day.

So what about:


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index 724ba02..773796b 100644
--- a/website/drafts/meet-guix-at-fosdem-2021.md
+++ b/website/drafts/meet-guix-at-fosdem-2021.md
@@ -70,8 +70,9 @@ sessions focused on specific hot topics about Guix, the Shepherd,
 continuous integration, and related tools and workflows.
 
 Attendance to the workshop is free and open to everyone, though you are
-invited to register (there are only a few seats left!).  Check out [the
-workshop’s wiki
+invited to register (there are only a few seats left!).  Join [our
+BigBlueButton instance](https://guixbbb.fosshost.org) on Monday 8th at
+10AM CET, and check out [the workshop’s wiki
 page](https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix/FOSDEM2021) for practical
 info.  Hope to see you on-line!
 

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Pjotr, Manolis, what are you thoughts?  I’m happy to have this event and
to make something unconference-style, but IMO we need to have a clearer
view of when it’ll take place, what we’ll be doing, who’s going to
moderate, that sort of thing.  :-)

If we’re not prepared for a broader event, maybe we can make it a
small-case developer gathering and not announce it publicly?

Thanks,
Ludo’.

Re: Blog post about the upcoming FOSDEM + Guix Day

[Pjotr Prins]

On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 05:30:26PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Pjotr, Manolis, what are you thoughts?  I’m happy to have this event and
> to make something unconference-style, but IMO we need to have a clearer
> view of when it’ll take place, what we’ll be doing, who’s going to
> moderate, that sort of thing.  :-)

We have the moderators and plan to cross 3 TZs. Bonface and Efraim
start in the Asia slot (6am EU). Manolis and me will take Europe and
after from 9am.

> If we’re not prepared for a broader event, maybe we can make it a
> small-case developer gathering and not announce it publicly?

It is already public as a fringe event :). But, I think, realistically
it will be just us having a discussion/hacking day. But if anyone
walks in the door we should be happy to facilitate. 

  https://fosdem.org/2021/fringe/

I know we don't like lack of structure, but I feel this is just an
open door kinda thing. 

Pj.

Re: Blog post about the upcoming FOSDEM + Guix Day

[zimoun]

Hi,

On Mon, 01 Feb 2021 at 17:30, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:

>  Attendance to the workshop is free and open to everyone, though you are
> -invited to register (there are only a few seats left!).  Check out [the
> -workshop’s wiki
> +invited to register (there are only a few seats left!).  Join [our
> +BigBlueButton instance](https://guixbbb.fosshost.org) on Monday 8th at
> +10AM CET, and check out [the workshop’s wiki
>  page](https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix/FOSDEM2021) for practical
>  info.  Hope to see you on-line!

[...]

> If we’re not prepared for a broader event, maybe we can make it a
> small-case developer gathering and not announce it publicly?

Reading the Pjotr’s answer, maybe small-case developer gathering and not
announce it publicly seems better; even if we are announcing publicly
right now. ;-)

The program of the fringe event says:

        In the European morning the following presentations are planned:

           1. Guix State of the Union by Ludovic Courtès + Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
           2. Guix Data Service by Christopher Baines
           3. Bootstrapping Intro by Jan Nieuwenhuizen

        …and many more…

Is it still something in the pipes?  If yes, is it possible to set
something more precise than «European morning»?

BTW, do we fix hour/check points to organize the day?  Or is it an usual
day on #guix/#guix-hpc where some video chats is hypothetically added?


Cheers,
simon

Re: Blog post about the upcoming FOSDEM + Guix Day

[ragkousism--- via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.]

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Maybe it would be a good idea to test big blue button tomorrow? How about a call?

Sent from ProtonMail mobile

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On Feb 1, 2021, 19:49, zimoun wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 01 Feb 2021 at 17:30, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> Attendance to the workshop is free and open to everyone, though you are
>> -invited to register (there are only a few seats left!). Check out [the
>> -workshop’s wiki
>> +invited to register (there are only a few seats left!). Join [our
>> +BigBlueButton instance](https://guixbbb.fosshost.org) on Monday 8th at
>> +10AM CET, and check out [the workshop’s wiki
>> page](https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix/FOSDEM2021) for practical
>> info. Hope to see you on-line!
>
> [...]
>
>> If we’re not prepared for a broader event, maybe we can make it a
>> small-case developer gathering and not announce it publicly?
>
> Reading the Pjotr’s answer, maybe small-case developer gathering and not
> announce it publicly seems better; even if we are announcing publicly
> right now. ;-)
>
> The program of the fringe event says:
>
> In the European morning the following presentations are planned:
>
> 1. Guix State of the Union by Ludovic Courtès + Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
> 2. Guix Data Service by Christopher Baines
> 3. Bootstrapping Intro by Jan Nieuwenhuizen
>
> …and many more…
>
> Is it still something in the pipes? If yes, is it possible to set
> something more precise than «European morning»?
>
> BTW, do we fix hour/check points to organize the day? Or is it an usual
> day on #guix/#guix-hpc where some video chats is hypothetically added?
>
> Cheers,
> simon

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Re: Blog post about the upcoming FOSDEM + Guix Day

[Pjotr Prins]

Sure. Call a time tomorrow and anyone on IRC/mail/matrix can pop in. Are you
a host Manolis? A host can create rooms.

On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 06:31:37PM +0000, Manolis Ragkousis wrote:
>    Maybe it would be a good idea to test big blue button tomorrow? How
>    about a call?
>    Sent from ProtonMail mobile
>    -------- Original Message --------
>    On Feb 1, 2021, 19:49, zimoun < zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>      Hi,
> 
>      On Mon, 01 Feb 2021 at 17:30, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
> 
>      > Attendance to the workshop is free and open to everyone, though
>      you are
>      > -invited to register (there are only a few seats left!). Check out
>      [the
>      > -workshop’s wiki
>      > +invited to register (there are only a few seats left!). Join [our
>      > +BigBlueButton instance]([1]https://guixbbb.fosshost.org) on
>      Monday 8th at
>      > +10AM CET, and check out [the workshop’s wiki
>      > page]([2]https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix/FOSDEM2021) for
>      practical
>      > info. Hope to see you on-line!
> 
>      [...]
> 
>      > If we’re not prepared for a broader event, maybe we can make it a
>      > small-case developer gathering and not announce it publicly?
> 
>      Reading the Pjotr’s answer, maybe small-case developer gathering and
>      not
>      announce it publicly seems better; even if we are announcing
>      publicly
>      right now. ;-)
> 
>      The program of the fringe event says:
> 
>      In the European morning the following presentations are planned:
> 
>      1. Guix State of the Union by Ludovic Courtès + Tobias
>      Geerinckx-Rice
>      2. Guix Data Service by Christopher Baines
>      3. Bootstrapping Intro by Jan Nieuwenhuizen
> 
>      …and many more…
> 
>      Is it still something in the pipes? If yes, is it possible to set
>      something more precise than «European morning»?
> 
>      BTW, do we fix hour/check points to organize the day? Or is it an
>      usual
>      day on #guix/#guix-hpc where some video chats is hypothetically
>      added?
> 
>      Cheers,
>      simon
> 
> References
> 
>    1. https://guixbbb.fosshost.org/
>    2. https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix/FOSDEM2021

Re: Blog post about the upcoming FOSDEM + Guix Day

[ragkousism--- via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.]

It seems I can create rooms. I created a `Guix Day` one.

https://guixbbb.fosshost.org/b/man-wtf-odj-91i

Let's try to coordinate tomorrow through email/irc and join for a test.

On 2/1/21 8:51 PM, Pjotr Prins wrote:
> 
> Sure. Call a time tomorrow and anyone on IRC/mail/matrix can pop in. Are you
> a host Manolis? A host can create rooms.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 06:31:37PM +0000, Manolis Ragkousis wrote:
>>    Maybe it would be a good idea to test big blue button tomorrow? How
>>    about a call?
>>    Sent from ProtonMail mobile
>>    -------- Original Message --------
>>    On Feb 1, 2021, 19:49, zimoun < zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>      Hi,
>>
>>      On Mon, 01 Feb 2021 at 17:30, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
>>
>>      > Attendance to the workshop is free and open to everyone, though
>>      you are
>>      > -invited to register (there are only a few seats left!). Check out
>>      [the
>>      > -workshop’s wiki
>>      > +invited to register (there are only a few seats left!). Join [our
>>      > +BigBlueButton instance]([1]https://guixbbb.fosshost.org) on
>>      Monday 8th at
>>      > +10AM CET, and check out [the workshop’s wiki
>>      > page]([2]https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix/FOSDEM2021) for
>>      practical
>>      > info. Hope to see you on-line!
>>
>>      [...]
>>
>>      > If we’re not prepared for a broader event, maybe we can make it a
>>      > small-case developer gathering and not announce it publicly?
>>
>>      Reading the Pjotr’s answer, maybe small-case developer gathering and
>>      not
>>      announce it publicly seems better; even if we are announcing
>>      publicly
>>      right now. ;-)
>>
>>      The program of the fringe event says:
>>
>>      In the European morning the following presentations are planned:
>>
>>      1. Guix State of the Union by Ludovic Courtès + Tobias
>>      Geerinckx-Rice
>>      2. Guix Data Service by Christopher Baines
>>      3. Bootstrapping Intro by Jan Nieuwenhuizen
>>
>>      …and many more…
>>
>>      Is it still something in the pipes? If yes, is it possible to set
>>      something more precise than «European morning»?
>>
>>      BTW, do we fix hour/check points to organize the day? Or is it an
>>      usual
>>      day on #guix/#guix-hpc where some video chats is hypothetically
>>      added?
>>
>>      Cheers,
>>      simon
>>
>> References
>>
>>    1. https://guixbbb.fosshost.org/
>>    2. https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix/FOSDEM2021

-- 
Manolis Ragkousis   |  Tel: +30 6985855120

Re: Blog post about the upcoming FOSDEM + Guix Day

[Leo Famulari]

On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 04:57:58PM +0100, Pjotr Prins wrote:
> So far, we'll have a GNU Hurd session and a Rust packaging session. We
> will also discuss ARM, RISC-V and GNU Mes. Otherwise the program is
> open for newbies and unconference topics alike. If you want to propose
> something this may be the time.

I think we should discuss the state of the build farm, the Guix Build
Coordinator, and proposed changes to the "big updates strategy" (i.e.
core-updates).

Re: Blog post about the upcoming FOSDEM + Guix Day

[Ludovic Courtès]

Here we go!

  https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2021/meet-guix-at-fosdem-2021/

Ludo’.

Re: Blog post about the upcoming FOSDEM + Guix Day

[Leo Famulari]

On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 07:07:47PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Here we go!
> 
>   https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2021/meet-guix-at-fosdem-2021/

People in #guix were asking, "When exactly does it start?" Can we update
the blog post to say?

Re: Blog post about the upcoming FOSDEM + Guix Day

[Pjotr Prins]

We start Monday at 5am UTC (6am AMS/Berlin, 7am Athens) to cater for
some of Asia. The day ends when the last one switches off the lights
:).  Manolis, Efraim and Bonface have promised to be there. The
bluebutton link will be announced a day ahead.

Pj.

On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 05:40:04PM -0500, Leo Famulari wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 07:07:47PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> > Here we go!
> > 
> >   https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2021/meet-guix-at-fosdem-2021/
> 
> People in #guix were asking, "When exactly does it start?" Can we update
> the blog post to say?
> 

Re: Blog post about the upcoming FOSDEM + Guix Day

[Efraim Flashner]

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Send coffee. Lots of coffee ;D

On Wed, Feb 03, 2021 at 08:35:36AM +0100, Pjotr Prins wrote:
> We start Monday at 5am UTC (6am AMS/Berlin, 7am Athens) to cater for
> some of Asia. The day ends when the last one switches off the lights
> :).  Manolis, Efraim and Bonface have promised to be there. The
> bluebutton link will be announced a day ahead.
> 
> Pj.
> 
> On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 05:40:04PM -0500, Leo Famulari wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 07:07:47PM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> > > Here we go!
> > > 
> > >   https://guix.gnu.org/en/blog/2021/meet-guix-at-fosdem-2021/
> > 
> > People in #guix were asking, "When exactly does it start?" Can we update
> > the blog post to say?
> > 

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Re: Blog post about the upcoming FOSDEM + Guix Day

[Bonface Munyoki K.]

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Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il> writes:

> Send coffee. Lots of coffee ;D
>

Tea is more polite(?) :)

-- 
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Humble GNU Emacs User / Bearer of scheme-y parens
Curator: <https://upbookclub.com> / Twitter: @BonfaceKilz

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Re: Blog post about the upcoming FOSDEM + Guix Day

[ragkousism--- via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.]

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We will start the day with coffee, continue with tea, and finish the day with some belgian beer. :)

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> Efraim Flashner  writes: > Send coffee. Lots of coffee ;D > Tea is more polite(?) :) -- Bonface M. K. D4F09EB110177E03C28E2FE1F5BBAE1E0392253F Humble GNU Emacs User / Bearer of scheme-y parens Curator:  / Twitter: @BonfaceKilz

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Re: Blog post about the upcoming FOSDEM + Guix Day

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi,

Pjotr Prins <pjotr.public12@thebird.nl> skribis:

> We start Monday at 5am UTC (6am AMS/Berlin, 7am Athens) to cater for
> some of Asia. The day ends when the last one switches off the lights
> :).  Manolis, Efraim and Bonface have promised to be there. The
> bluebutton link will be announced a day ahead.

Could you update <https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix/FOSDEM2021>?

Are there planned sessions and associated facilitators?  I think the
things on the wiki page are copy/pasted from last year and should be
updated.

I’m happy to have be on a “state of the union” session with the other
co-maintainers but we’ll need to know in advance (like now :-)) so we
can structure our thoughts a bit.  (Timezones would be Europe +
America.)

On IRC Leo (American timezone) was thinking about having a session to
discuss branching strategies, and there were also discussions about
substitute availability and continuous builds for QA.

(But really, I don’t think I can make it at 6AM local time…)

Thanks for organizing this!

Ludo’.

Re: Blog post about the upcoming FOSDEM + Guix Day

[Leo Famulari]

On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 11:37:49AM +0100, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> On IRC Leo (American timezone) was thinking about having a session to
> discuss branching strategies, and there were also discussions about
> substitute availability and continuous builds for QA.

Yes, I think we can discuss branching and CI / QA in the same session.

I'm in the New York time zone, UTC−05:00

By the way, can we record these sessions?

Re: Blog post about the upcoming FOSDEM + Guix Day

[Pjotr Prins]

Just a reminder: tomorrow we have a GNU Guix day online! Free for all.

See 

https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Guix/FOSDEM2021

Starts at 5am UTC with a Greek breakfast and runs all day until we are
done! See the link in above page.

Pj.