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Wrong! It is again and again unrelated off-topic debates which leads nowhere. And worse, it hurts or offends or strongly irritates some of us. Therefore, I apologize. I am sorry to have overestimated the capacity of some Guix community members to keep a positive environment and show empathy towards other community members. I withdraw my proposal of a CoC update from v1.4 to v2.1 since the thread is apparently not able to stay on track. Please stop any further discussion, especially off-topic discussions =E2=80=93 otherwise it would be another breach of our CoC by =C2=ABtrolling, insulting/derogatory comments, and personal or political attacks=C2=BB. 1: 2: Thanks, simon